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Apparently so.

-- Francis
The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and does not stop until you get to the office.
--Robert Frost
 
I should of read this post earlier.

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John said:
...should of...
Sorry, John...can't let that slide here in the MAI forum. <grin>


Happy, Prosperous, and Grammatically Correct New Year to my family here in MAI !

[santa]Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
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Santa - ravished Vs ravaged. I can't now remember the exact context, but he was talking about the condition of some aspect of an area's infrastructure after the post turtle had mismanaged it.

I'm pretty sure he did not really mean SP had ravished the whole town.

Or, given that it was a fairly scathing documentary, maybe he did...

Tony
 
Another tripple.

The radical vegan thought it meet to mete out punishment to those who eat meat.

Does that meet the criteria for this thread?

Tony
 
I'm pretty sure he did not really mean SP had ravished the whole town.
Could be fun trying though. [wink]

Chris.

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Discussing this thread with a colleague yesterday he mentioned a good one... when people claim to "hone in" on something rather than "home in".

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Annihilannic said:
Discussing this thread with a colleague yesterday he mentioned a good one... when people claim to "hone in" on something rather than "home in".
I believe that "what we have here is a failure to communicate" <grin>. Hone in is correct according to Merriam-Webster. In fact, Merriam-Webster doesn't even have a listing for a verbal use of home or home in.

[santa]Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
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Strange, so do M-W talk about a honing missile rather than a homing missile?

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Here is the definition of the verb to home. The verb "to home" and the verb "to hone" are different, but in some contexts can appear to be similar, such as to home in a specific skill and home in on getting that skill perfected. Please see definition four in the above link and compare it to definition two of to hone. These two verb become similar when the objective is to perfect a skill. Even then, there is still a subtle difference between the two.


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To Hone in = To Cut in (take another's place)

To Home in = To Zero in (refine focus)

A Homing missle would zero in on a target

A person would hone in on taking credit for others work (much like I'm doing now)

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Affluence - an abundant flow or supply; abundance of property; wealth; a flowing to or toward a point; an influx

Effluence - something that flows out; an action or process of flowing out


-- Francis
The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and does not stop until you get to the office.
--Robert Frost
 
So when I pay taxes my affluence becomes my effluence?

James P. Cottingham
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@kwbMitel
==> To Hone in = To Cut in (take another's place)
From what dictionary did you get that definition?

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2ffat - I first heard of effluence as being the output from a septic tank.

Let's just say that the IRS is that tank.

-- Francis
The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and does not stop until you get to the office.
--Robert Frost
 
@ CajunCenturion - Hone in = Cut in

My words and opinion and should have been stated as such.

I would also say that Honed In and Edged out are opposites.

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The Merriam-Webster link indicates that hone in is something that missles do, as well. (Missles often do use &quot;homing&quot; signals to hone in on their targets.)

M-W.com said:
hone in : to move toward or focus attention on an objective &lt;looking back for the ball honing in — George Plimpton&gt; &lt;a missile honing in on its target — Bob Greene&gt; &lt;hones in on the plights and victories of the common man — Lisa Russell&gt;

Usage Discussion of HONE IN
The few commentators who have noticed hone in consider it to be a mistake for home in. It may have arisen from home in by the weakening of the \m\ sound to \n\ or may perhaps simply be due to the influence of hone. Though it seems to have established itself in American English (and mention in a British usage book suggests it is used in British English too), your use of it especially in writing is likely to be called a mistake. Home in or in figurative use zero in does nicely.

[santa]Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel.&quot;
 
I've been honing my understanding of the differences/similarities and am homing in on a greater understanding, thus leaving me more confused than before. Irony?

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flapeyre said:
2ffat - I first heard of effluence as being the output from a septic tank.

I believe that's actually effluent.

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