I'll bet this at least makes you smile... 2

[SantaMufasa]

If this link does not make you at least smile (if not chuckle), then you probably need some professional attention.

Let me know your reactions.

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[Stella740pl]

Stella, how true that is!

Of course it's true. Where do you think I know this from?

 

[Chacalinc]

(although none of them are as good as mine obviously )

yes, there are 2 children better... my children (just kidding!)

... I wouldn't have understood it if someone had tried to explain it to me before.

it's impossible to explain what a father/mother feels for the son/dougther, the only way is living the experience personally.

Cheers.

Chacal, Inc.

 

[CRilliterate]

I am still wondering how some people love children just love them and others only love theirs. I am that second one but isn't it weird? I do go goo-goo gaa-gaa over others kids but only to be polite. But I definitely know when others go the same about mine - it is genuine adoration! :-D

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[SantaMufasa]

Underscoring how people just can't understand the emotions of have "your own gang" until you actually have it happen personally, I recall one time when our six kids were ages 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 14 and we went on a family vacation to the "Circus, Circus" hotel/casino in Reno, Nevada. We took along with us my eldest daughter's Catholic friend. When all 9 of us walked out of the elevator, a rather stunned (partially inebriated) gambler commented, "Yer either Catholic, Mormon, or crazy, ain't ya'?"

Without missing a beat, my wife responded with a smile, "Three outta Three ain't bad."

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[Stella740pl]

My daughter was born in June last year
Oh, and my daughter was born in June. Last year (also in June), she graduated from high school. (Feel the difference the punctuation makes ;-)?)

I know I've never experienced anything like it
I also have a son, he is much younger. Still, I've never experienced anything like it - different age, different kid, different life - different experience.

 

[AngelB]

Stella, yes I'd guessed that you were a parent from your post. I was agreeing with your point.

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[Stella740pl]

I was agreeing with your point.
Yes, I noticed.

 

[KenCunningham]

AngelB's point is an excellent one. Not many people can imagine the sea-chage which occurs when their first child comes along. In a related vein, grandparents are meant to be the lucky ones, since having experienced the pleasure firsthand the first time around, they can relive it later with their grandchildren together with the added pleasure of being able to 'give them back' to their offspring once things get tiresome!

 

[CRilliterate]

Santa,
I am becoming a big fan of "... either Catholics, Mormons, or crazys"
thanks to you:-D

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[SilentAiche]

I specifically asked whether you were a parent, not whether you had children. "Having children" is a simple state of being, whereas "being a parent" is a vocation

Well said. I don't have kids, myself, but I'd gladly catch a bullet, or a car, for my beautiful neices.

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[BillyRayPreachersSon]

This is an interesting point. A few years back, a good friend and I were having a discussion on emotions, and he put a simple question to me:

Imagine you're in the wilderness of Africa. You have a rifle with just one bullet in it. You come across a scene where you can see a lion is about to attack a small child.

Asusming that:

a) The child is not related to you in any way,
b) If the lion gets to the child, it will kill him, and
c) You will not miss with the one bullet you have,

then which what you do:

1) Do nothing. Let nature happen as nature wants to,
2) Shoot the child, or
3) Shoot the lion

The caveat: Whatever answer you give, you have to explain why you are giving it.

I gave option 3 for the reason: "Because it's what people would expect me to do".

I wouldn't do it because the child is a chilld, or because the child is human. The wilderness of Arfica would be the lion's domain, in which small prey will be hunted and killed. Why should we interfere with that?

It just goes to show - peer pressure can be so ingrained in the human psyche.

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[KenCunningham]

Dan. The question of why we should interfere is surely one of ethics and at a more basic level, that we have the capability and the means to protect 'one of our own' related or not.

 

[BillyRayPreachersSon]

Well this is it - why should we protect "one of our own" at the expense of the lion?

We, as humans, rate human life over all other life (self preservation)... but does that give us the right to choose the fate of another species over us?




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[KenCunningham]

Basically, yes. I hesitate to say it but it's the evolutionary tale of brain and tools over tooth and claw (most times!).

 

[2ffat]

[D]oes that give us the right to choose the fate of another species over us?

Another question is, "does it give the other specie the right to choose the fate of their specie over us?" Self preservation is so in-grained into all species that all species feel it does. If it wasn't, that specie wouldn't be here.

Don't you just love phylo fillo these types of questions? ;-)

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[CRilliterate]

Billy,
1.I bet if you were that child you would beg to shot the lion even he is at his home in wilderness.
2.Child hardly able to get into wilderness himself, so what's his fault?
3.Ever animals protect offsprings, why is it so hard to get for a human?

Anyway what kind of person would argue about saving a child?

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[CajunCenturion]

This is an excellent discussion, but it's better suited for Squaring The Circle (Forum1229)

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[AnotherHiggins]

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POINT OF ORDER*​

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I have enjoyed reading the discussion so far. But we have wandered far away from any language/grammar-based discussion. As CC has noted, the current discussion would be appropriate for the STC forum.

Please keep in mind that CajunCenturion is our host here in this forum. I'm no fan of 'censorship', but a certain amount of respect should be given to the guy paying the bills (literally and figuratively). He called for a cessation of posts. Please respect that request.

CC, please feel free to chop this post, along with any others you feel need chopping.

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[CajunCenturion]

Thank you anotherhiggins, but it's not a matter of censorship. It's a matter of being a good neighbor. Just as I host this forum to discuss language related issues, Chance1234 hosts STC for those types of discussions.

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[AnotherHiggins]

Well, at least this post will be forum-appropriate....

I didn't mean to suggest that you are censoring things, CC, even though that is clearly what my previous post says. I was trying to address BRPS and others who might feel they were being censored by having their posts deleted.

I meant to say something like, "I'm no fan of censorship, but this isn't a case of censorship. The current discussion just doesn't fit here...."

I used the quotes around 'censorship' to try to express this, but reading my post back I now see that it didn't come across clearly.

The fact is I didn't take the time to proofread my own post (as demonstrated by the random asterisk after the word 'order' – that was going to be a link to the Forum Behavior FAQ to make sure everyone understood the whole 'Point of Order' thing) and therefore didn't communicate my ideas very well.

See, I told you this was appropriate to 'Making an Impression'.

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