Full stop (period) after abbreviation

[keenanbr]

I always thought that a full stop was required after an abbreviation (e.g. Rd. for Road). I have been asked to change our address on all company letters from 70 St. Stephen's Green to 70 St Stephen's Green. Which is correct?

 

[Stella740pl]

Mine does have an envelope feed, but no one bothers to actually use it.

 

[tsdragon]

I've also noticed that a good percentage of web sites will not allow you to enter a zip+4. As one of the few who actually know, and use, my zip+4, I find that extremely annoying. As a programmer, I find it reprehensible.

Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[flapeyre]

Correction:

I said ZIP+4 has been in use for 15 years, I meant to type 25 years - since 1981.

Feles mala! Cur cista non uteris? Stramentum novum in ea posui!

 

[rosieb]

Re: UK addresses - SantaMufasa, ChrisHunt - you're quite correct.

However, all UK addresses now have a UPRN (Unique Property Reference Number) - these aren't yet in wide use, though I suspect that will change fairly soon.

Official addresses are the responsibility of the councils, the Royal Mail simply provide the postcode (though the two often have "differences" of opinion regarding the address on older properties.)

UPRNs are issued by Local Councils and are administered through a National Hub - this controls the UK National Land and Property Gazetteer (NLPG) which is made up of the various councils' Local Land and Property Gazetteers (LLPGs)

If addresses are formatted to BS7666 standard you can differentiate between:
3, Main Street, Barton In the Beans, NUNEATON, CV13 0DJ
3, Deacon Rise, Main Street, Barton In the Beans, NUNEATON, CV13 0DJ

In the first case, 3 would appear in the PAON (Primary Addressable Object Number). In the second case it would be in the SAON (Secondary Addressable Object Number).

(Is it a dead giveaway if I admit to being LLPG Custodian for a local council? )

Rosie
"Don't try to improve one thing by 100%, try to improve 100 things by 1%

 

[KenCunningham]

Rosie, Oh Rosie (see what I did there?). I just knew someone was going to dive into the murky world of UPRNs and the NLPG.

We're currently in the middle of a data cleansing exercise here using Aligned Assets software - what are you using?

I don't mind people who aren't what they seem. I just wish they'd make their mind up.

Alan Bennett.

 

[SantaMufasa]

Is where we are in this thread considered "Tangentental Meditation"? Perhaps I should send myself a note about that using my UPRN and my NLPG and my ZIP+4.

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
[I can provide you with low-cost, remote Database Administration services: see our website and contact me via www.dasages.com]

 

[rosieb]

Ken - I haven't heard that one for a while! You are showing your age!

Do I detect another LLPG being prepared for submission? If so, where are you? And, how are you getting on?

My predecessor used an independent consultant to do an initial match across PAF, Council Tax, Business Rates, Elections and our Gazetteer. He, apparently, used a fuzzy-matching algorithm... I got given a job "95% complete" and minimal resources to complete the job. Unfortunately no-one had checked the accuracy of the fuzzy stuff!!! (At the last count we've made over 10,000 changes to a cross referencing table of c60,000 addresses).

I ended up writing my own tool, using Access in conjunction with Uniform (which holds our Gazetteer) for the spatial stuff. All a bit Heath-Robinson (no resource), but we do seem to have cracked it - Intelligent Addressing are now willing to accept my data as definitive (barring a few formatting "infelicities"), I'm hoping for full accreditation within the month!

Ken - if we're both in the similar positions, would it be worth me starting a thread in TTUK to compare notes? (We can get away with almost anything there, or we could take this offline.) That way we can stop boring these poor folks with our strange little obsession! It would be good to talk to someone in a similar position.

Sorry All I realise I've dragged this thread off on a tangent - but to find someone who knows about UPRNs and NLPG, oooooh!!!!

Rosie
"Don't try to improve one thing by 100%, try to improve 100 things by 1%

 

[PaulTEG]

@rosie, it's interesting stuff, though I'm not sure it should go off line. I have a client that's using a courier company who are aiming for 100% accuracy on all Irish addresses, no small feat, no small cost.

I'd be interested to learn more of this NLPG, LLPG and UPRN's as this is probably the only way to truly tackle such a mammoth task

Regards
--Paul

Paul
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Spend an hour a week on CPAN, helps cure all known programming ailments ;-)

 

[ChrisHunt]

Three of us tackling the NLPG in one forum? Who'd have thought it?

I'm not responsible for compiling our county's gazetteer - thank goodness - but I am trying to use it. We're a long way from having a workable set of data though, I'd be interested in hearing what other counties are doing. I'll keep my eyes open in TTUK.

-- Chris Hunt
Webmaster & Tragedian
Extra Connections Ltd

 

[KenCunningham]

Firstly, sorry if this thread's been hijacked by our NLPG ramblings! Rosie (and, yes the song reference does give away my advanced years!), I'm fortunately not involved with the nuts and bolts here in Inverclyde (basically Greenock, Gourock and Port Glasgow with other bits and bobs), I just make sure the necessary databases are available to those who are. That said, I'm reliabaly informed that we're 95%+ accurate. The major problems here seem to have been with the traditional Scottish tenement addressing schema and garages, which tend to occur in clumps wherever there's space for them.

]I don't mind people who aren't what they seem. I just wish they'd make their mind up.

 

[PaulTEG]

seems the last 5% is what's going to take 95% of the time in most places so ;-)

Paul
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Spend an hour a week on CPAN, helps cure all known programming ailments ;-)

 

[rosieb]

To spare others our particular little obsession, I've started a new thread thread1091-1284039 for LLPG-related stuff.

Normal service can now be resumed!!!!

Rosie
"Don't try to improve one thing by 100%, try to improve 100 things by 1%