Do I need the IPO/B5800 IP500 V2 COMB CARD ATM?

[leemoreau]

Hi all,

I'm not super technical but I know PBX's and have used Asterisk for many years. Looking to get an Avaya IP Office as we well it through a partner but as it's mostly just for playing around with, I wanted to check if I need the part above. We are using 9620 IP phones and then 5 SIP trunks with absolutely no digital stations, analog lines, analog devices etc. The quote they gave with just part numbers is below:

IPO IP500 V2 CNTRL UNIT
IPO R8+ ESSNTL EDITION+ LIC
IPO R8.1 USER/ADMIN SET DVD
IPO IP500 V2 SYS SD CARD MUL
IPO LIC SIP TRNK RFA 5
IPO LIC R6+ AV IP ENDPOINT 1
PWR CORD NA 18AWG 10 Amp AC
IPO/B5800 IP500 V2 COMB CARD ATM
IPO IP500 WALL MNTG KIT V3

I'm just not clear on what the IPO/B4800 IP500 V2 Comb Card is, or rather why I need it. Is it for those 10 VCM channels that it includes? As I of course don't need it for analog lines or digital stations etc? Just curious thanks!

 

[AACon]

Yes, it's the cheapest way to get the VCM channels. It does *not* come with endpoint licenses, so I hope they gave you enough of those for your 9620's.

Plus now you have the option of a few analog sets, digital, or analog trunks, it's handy.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[smokinjoe2938]

looks good except as AACon says you will need more ip endpoint licenses as it looks like you only purchased one license.

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[tlpeter]

AACon, the VCM32V2 is cheaper then the combocoard.
This is also the cheapest way if you need a card to put a daughter card on.


BAZINGA!

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[AACon]

tlpeter, holy smokes you are right. I hadn't seen the prices for the v2 card yet. For a cheap solution, that is the way to go. We usually put the combo's in there because we always end up needing analog or a trunk port for backup.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[tlpeter]

Those combo's are great for smaller sites where you never know what to expect.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!

 

[intrigrant]

I always leave out the DVD as the software on it is out of date and you'll have to download a newer version.
The Avaya power lead is way too expensive, you can buy ten of them around the corner for the same prize.
If you are going to play around with the kit is is most unlikely you are mount it against the wall so don't buy the wall mounting kit.
The Combo card is only usefull if you need Analog trunks/stations or digital station ports, go for a VCM30v2 as tlpeter suggest but you do need Avaya IP Endpoint license per connected IP Phone.
If you need a analog station consider to buy a cheap SIP enabled ATA and a third party IP Endpoint license.

If you really only want to play around then consider to buy a Demo KIT which has all the feature lics you need to fully understand the system or try to get hands on the Demo software version, that is a VMWare virtual Linux distribution and it is full IP only, no other hardware required as the IP Phones ( max 5 ) but with One-X portal and VM pro embedded in the distribution. It will give you a good impression of the IP Office and all it's capabilities.

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[leemoreau]

Thanks for all the replies everyone! That's a huge help, didn't realize about the endpoint licence. Just curious is that endpoint licence needed if it's a digital phone instead of IP? No real preference here. I know that the Comb Card I'm asking about is of course needed then if I use digital phones.

I'm looking to play with it but also use it in production, as right now we just use our cell phones. I didn't write quantity but they put quantity 3 on the actual quote for the endpoint licence.

 

[intrigrant]

Th IP Endpoint license tells the story in its name... only needed for IP endpoints

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[leemoreau]

Oh okay cool that's good to know just because I know when looking at the digital vs IP phones the digital sometimes seem slightly more expensive when I've checked. Thanks for all the help, sorry for all the "sales" like questions. I'm a partner for Bell Canada so we sell Avaya but our extent is me basically filling in a form saying "Customer needs Avaya IP Office to connect to a full PRI, 15 users, 1608 phones digital, wall mount, essential edition, and anything else needed" lol. So I'm trying to just buy one here and there to play with and have our office use it just to learn off it so that we can sell more of it

 

[leemoreau]

Here's a really stupid question maybe to ask then. I know when we sell Avaya typically we use Digital sets as everyone has an old Nortel system which I thought used RJ11 or normal phone cabling. But in a video on Youtube connecting Digital Avaya sets to the IP500 it looks like an Ethernet cable connecting to the IP500 when I always thought it was just a normal phone cable. Maybe I'm just mixed up here but if I was doing all new wiring and didn't care whether it's IP or Digital, is it just an Ethernet cable that connects from the IP500 to the Digital phone or some other special type of cable?

 

[AACon]

The jacks on all the new phones are RJ45, however it's only using the single inner pair (for digital). Also, all the jacks on the IP Office cards and modules are RJ45. Makes it all nice and universal, sorta.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[leemoreau]

Awesome thanks, one last really stupid beginner question for the night. If I go with Digital, like the 1608 phones, are they limited to one extension? I know they have 8 line appearances or what not, but if I have lets say extension 305 and 301, can I have line 1 on the phone be 305 and line 2 be 301? Allowing inbound/outbound calls on the one set from both extensions? I've always used IP where that's no issue but just wanted to check if it's the same for Digital. Thanks again!

 

[AACon]

You could do bridge appearances, that should do what you want.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[leemoreau]

Okay awesome thanks. Basically just need it so that it shows 2 separate lines, so that I can make an outbound call from extension 301 or 305 which both have different outbound caller IDs. And then for inbound if someone calls 301 or 305 it goes to the phone but identifies which extension is being called and then of course if no answer goes to the voicemail for the applicable extension.

 

[AACon]

Yeah it should work just fine like that...not ENTIRELY sure if it will send the right caller ID, but it should. I would just test it. I only have the 1 DID here, else I would test it. Look up "bridged appearance" in the manager help for more info.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[EmuDan]

If I go with Digital, like the 1608 phones,

The 1608s are IP phones, not digital. If you want plain digital, it's the 1408s or the 9508s. I would probably go with the 9508s, because those have 3 "pages" of 8 buttons each, giving you up to 24 programmable buttons.

Dan

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[AACon]

The 14xx series are such crap phones. I would go with the old 54xx phones before I got the 14xx ones again.

-Austin
ACE: Implement IP Office

 

[smokinjoe2938]

besides if you go with 1408 digital phones then you will need a desi programm for the paper labels, yuck paper labels in the 21st century!!!

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[intrigrant]

The 1400 series of phone are quite good, inexpensive and yes the have printed labels.
Not all customers are in a position to buy the idiot expensive 9500 series of phones, there is a crisis going on if you didn't notice yet.

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