Trouble interfacing CS1000 to Simplex 5110 for paging

[Mike_Wade]

I am having trouble interfacing to a Simplex 5110. i have programed a WAT route with a Trunk on a XUT card.
See RDB and TN below:
when i dial the access code for the route i get dial tone from the Simplex system, i need to be able to dial "#110" if it works correctly i would get a confirmation tone and be able to page. what is happening is if i dial the #110 as soon as i get dial tone i get no confirmation tone and can not page, if i wait several seconds after getting dial tone before dialing the #110 i do get confirmation tone and can page. how can i remove this delay?

Route Data Block
TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 91
DES PLT8 PAGE
TKTP WAT
NPID_TBL_NUM 0
SAT NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
DTRK NO
ISDN NO
PTYP ACO
CNDP UKWN
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
ICOG OGT
SRCH LIN
STEP
ACOD 1721
CPP NO
TARG 01
CLEN 1
OABS
IDC NO
DCNO 0 *
NDNO 0
DEXT NO
TIMR ICF 512
OGF 512
EOD 128
DSI 34944
NRD 10112
DDL 0
OOD 3
ODT 256
RGV 640
FLH 510
GRD 0
SFB 3

IENB 5
TFD 60
LEXT 100
SST 3 0
NEDC ORG
FEDC ORG
CPDC NO
SPCT IMM
HOLD 02 02 40
SEIZ 02 02
RGFL 02 02
RVSD 08 31
ILLR 02 02
CDR NO
MUS NO
MANO YES
EQAR NO
FRL 0 0
FRL 1 0
FRL 2 0
FRL 3 0
FRL 4 0
FRL 5 0


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FRL 6 0
FRL 7 0
OHQ NO
OHQT 00
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
OHTD NO
PLEV 2
ALRM NO
ART 0
SGRP 0
ARDN NO
CTBL 0
AACR NO

Trunk TN
DES PLT8 PAGE
TN 016 1 01 00 VIRTUAL
TYPE WAT
CDEN 8D
CUST 0
XTRK XUT
TIMP 600
BIMP 3COM
TRK ANLG
NCOS 0
RTMB 91 1
NITE
SIGL LOP
SUPN NO
AST NO
IAPG 0
CLS UNR DTN CND ECD WTA LPR APN THFD SPCD
P10 NTC
TKID
AACR NO
DATE 7 NOV 2018

 

[KCFLHRC]

Is the set you are paging from UNR in CLS ??

 

[Mike_Wade]

no it is CTD I changed it to UNR however there is still a delay before I can dial the #110 and have it work.

 

[bc1111]

Try ##110

 

[Mike_Wade]

tried that it does not work.

 

[Mike_Wade]

When I do an enhanced trace if i dial the "#110" after the call shows "Established" i get confirmation tone and can page.
dialing "##110" does not work

If I dial "#110" as soon as i hear dial tone, the "#" breaks the dial tone however I do not get the confirmation tone and can't page.
Enhanced trace shows that i dialed the "#110"


.07:15:53 08/11/2018
ACTIVE TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1

ORIG VTN 100 0 00 00 KEY 0 SCR MARP CUST 0 DN 1042 TYPE 1220
SIGNALLING ENCRYPTION: INSEC
MEDIA ENDPOINT IP: 192.168.0.243 PORT: 5200
TERM TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1 V PHYSICAL TN 016 1 11 23 WATS RMBR 91 1 OUTGOING TRUNK CALL
DIAL DN 1721#110
MAIN_PM ESTD
TALKSLOT ORIG 10 TERM 79 JUNCTOR ORIG0 TERM0
QUEU 128
CALL ID 0 33244

However if I wait before dialing the "#110" until after the call shows established the enhanced call trace does not show the digits dialed.

.07:14:57 08/11/2018
ACTIVE TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1

ORIG VTN 100 0 00 00 KEY 0 SCR MARP CUST 0 DN 1042 TYPE 1220
SIGNALLING ENCRYPTION: INSEC
MEDIA ENDPOINT IP: 192.168.0.243 PORT: 5200
TERM TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1 V PHYSICAL TN 016 1 11 22 WATS RMBR 91 1 OUTGOING TRUNK CALL
DIAL DN 1721
MAIN_PM DIAL AUX_PM DDL
TALKSLOT ORIG 30 TERM 67 JUNCTOR ORIG0 TERM0
QUEU 128
CALL ID 0 33547





.07:14:59 08/11/2018
ACTIVE TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1

ORIG VTN 100 0 00 00 KEY 0 SCR MARP CUST 0 DN 1042 TYPE 1220
SIGNALLING ENCRYPTION: INSEC
MEDIA ENDPOINT IP: 192.168.0.243 PORT: 5200
TERM TN 016 1 01 00 IPMG 016 1 V PHYSICAL TN 016 1 11 22 WATS RMBR 91 1 OUTGOING TRUNK CALL
DIAL DN 1721
MAIN_PM ESTD
TALKSLOT ORIG 30 TERM 67 JUNCTOR ORIG0 TERM0
QUEU 128
CALL ID 0 33547

 

[KCFLHRC]

Pretty sure it's one of the timers in the RDB

 

[KCFLHRC]

Try changing MANO to NO

 

[Mike_Wade]

With MANO = NO

1. dial 1721
2. get tone from page controller
3. dial #110
4. does not break tone, can't page

if i wait several seconds after getting the tone before dialing then it breaks the tone gives confirmation tone and i can page

still a delay

 

[KCFLHRC]

Poop

 

[KCFLHRC]

Look in your CDB at these prompts

DTMF End-to-End Signaling feedback tone ees-19
(NO) Use the improved EES for single tone
feedback
YES Use the current EES for DTMF feedback tone

and

EEST End-to-End Signaling Tone to originating party ees-19
(NO) No feedback tone to the originator
YES Send feedback tone to originator
When EEST = NO or when EEST = YES and
DTMF = NO, Improved End-to-End Signaling
is used. When EEST = YES and DTMF = YES,
Enhanced End-to-End Signaling is used.
EEST is prompted with End-to-End Signaling
(EES) package 10.

 

[Mike_Wade]

FTR_DATA
**DAPC**PREFIX TABLE NO: 00 **
UNKN**INTL**NATL**ESPN**LOCL**ELOC**ECDP**
UNKN*
E164* 00 0
PRIV*
E163* 00 0
TELX*
X121*
NATL*

OPT AHA BIND BIXA BLA CFF CFRD
COX CPA CTD DBD DNX DSX
HTU HVD XBL IC1 XDP XLF
IHD XTG FKA LOD LRA MCI
MWUD PVCD REA RND
RTR RTD ROX SYD
TTAD VOBD CWRA HLPD HRLD
CXOD GPAD MKRL
DGRP 100
IRNG NO
PKND 1
DNDL NO
SPRE 8892
PREO 1
BPSS NO
SRCD 0000
EEST YES <------ Current Setting
DTMF YES <------ Current Setting
EESD NO
TTBL 0
MUS YES
MUSR 9
ALDN


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RECD NO
PORT 0
STCB NO
NSCP NO
MCDC NO
NAUT NO
IDEF NO
MTAR NO
LEND NO
MSCD NO
CPCI NO
CONF_DSP
CNFFIELD NO
CNF_NAME CONF
INTFIELD NO
INT_NAME I
EXTFIELD NO
EXT_NAME E
BSFE NO
ASPCT 000
FXS NO
DFLT_LANG ENG
STS_MSG
MSG01 Please leave message
MSG02 Back to work
MSG03 In a meeting
MSG04 On a conference call
MSG05 At lunch
MSG06 Busy call
MSG07 Out of the office today
MSG08 On a business trip
MSG09 Project deadline today
MSG10 Will reply after
VO_ALO NO
PCA OFF
TPDN
BFS_CFW YES
VO_CUR_ZONE_ZDM NO
VO_CUR_ZONE_TD NO
ZBD NO
DSAR_ALLOWED NO
MSRN
NPI UNKN
TON UNKN

 

[KCFLHRC]

I'm guessing you cant break the dial tone until the timer starts on the phone, correct?

 

[Mike_Wade]

I can with MANO= YES

I just change the following timers in the RDB

OOD = 1
LEXT = 100

now after I get the tone, if i dial the #110 i get confirmation tone and can page if i pause for a fraction of a second between "#" and the "110"

this may actually work

 

[KCFLHRC]

Also change EOD and ODT both to 128

 

[KCFLHRC]

That #110 is a strange dialing sequence for a zone page unit

 

[KCFLHRC]

Found an old post with a working config, see below

TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 60
DES BHC PAGING
TKTP WAT
NPID_TBL_NUM 0
SAT NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
NODE
DTRK NO
ISDN NO
PTYP ACO
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
ICOG OGT
SRCH LIN
STEP
ACOD 6
CPP NO
TARG
CLEN 1
OABS
TIMR ICF 512
OGF 512
EOD 128
DSI 34944
NRD 10112
DDL 70
OOD 1
ODT 256
RGV 640
FLH 510
GRD 896
SFB 3

IENB 5
TFD 30
LEXT 100
SST 3 0
NEDC ETH
FEDC ETH
CPDC NO
SPCT IMM
HOLD 02 02 40
SEIZ 02 02
RGFL 02 02
RVSD 08 31
ILLR 02 02
CDR NO
MUS NO
RACD NO
MANO NO
EQAR NO
FRL 0 1
FRL 1 1
FRL 2 1
FRL 3 1
FRL 4 1
FRL 5 1
FRL 6 1
FRL 7 1
OHQ NO


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OHQT 00
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
OHTD NO
PLEV 2
ALRM NO
ART 0
SGRP 0
ARDN NO
AACR NO

DES BHC PAGING
TN 040 0 00 01
TYPE WAT
CDEN 8D
CUST 0
XTRK EXUT
FWTM NO
TIMP 600
BIMP 3COM
AUTO_BIMP NO
TRK ANLG
NCOS 0
RTMB 60 1
NITE
SIGL LOP
SUPN NO
AST NO
IAPG 0
CLS UNR DTN CND ECD WTA LPR APN THFD SPCD
P10 NTC
TKID
AACR NO
DATE NO DATE

 

[Mike_Wade]

The Simplex system is used be security as well as zone paging, they only want to be able to do the all call from the CS1000 according to the documentation i found most of the commands for this system start with the "#" sign which i find very strange. however if looks like i have it in a workable configuration now.

Thanks