So Long and Thanks for All the Fish 13

[sizbut]

psst...

[small]While nothing to do directly with this forum, following a meeting with management today it was made clear that doing anything to openly support all users, installers and maintainers of IP Office was verboten. Instead its all about getting your bucks for anything and everything, for every call, for all support, for all help.

If I'm not allowed to do my best supporting IP Office users through my job, then sorry guys but I can't see why I should try and mitigate the companies short sighted policy using my own time.

To you all. We may have argued and differed but at least we talk and try to help and get the best out of the product. Hopefully at some point in the future the wind (what a good collective noun for managers) will change but till then keep smiling. I'm off to drink cider and enjoy the snow.

Sizbut out.[/small]

 

[intrigrant]

I can only give one star but the valuable help in the past was great.
PS tell your boss you are not the only one here helping others free of charge. They could profit themselves, sack you and sit with their fatbottems behind their fancy laptops asking the dumbest questions, completely free! 24 hours a day!

 

[amriddle01]

Goodbye Mr Sizbut, thanks for the help..hope to see you around again. Good luck and look after youtself

ACS - IP Office Implement

"I'm just off to Hartlepool to buy some exploding trousers

 

[TomMills]

thanks for all the help and good advice over the past year or so that ive been kicking about.

good luck to you fella.

 

[Bas1234]

All the best to you MR Sizbut, thanks for all the valuable posts on here and you've gave to me.

Greetzzz...Bas

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It works! Now if only I could remember what I did...
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[CarGoSki]

Global economy fails and now everyone is looking to save each dime. Well if more people drop off then perhaps we will finally be able to search through the most recent years posts.

Good luck sizbut
star for your prowess

 

[jamie77]

Good night and good luck fella, where ever you end up.

Jamie Green

ACA:Implement - IP Office
ACS:Implement - IP Office

Football is not a matter of life and death-It is far more important!!!!

 

[MetraRider]

sizbut,

While you may not have responded directly to one of my questions, but it is a shame that you are forbidden to participate to the community. Apparently the powers that be in your organization don't appreciate that the someday the help you give to a user could possibly come back to the company. We have a community here with only a hardware platform that we have in common. My employer is making an entrance into social media, something that I as well as a number of other professionals in my industry believe is the way of the future.

I respect your decision to not use your own personal time to overcome the shortsightedness of some and genuinely wish you the best success.


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and their reactions have been slow. Even the computer industry
failed to see the importance of the Internet, but that's not saying much.
Let's face it, the computer industry failed to see that the century would end
--Douglas Adams

 

[TheDoz]

Sizbut,
You have my many thanks.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful"
"The lack of money is the root of all evil"

 

[Notsetinstone]

Your employer is correct.

However this is a good place to learn. I struggle with posting answers all the time. I feel if I get knowledge I should give knowledge otherwise I would be a hypocryte.

There should be a vendor only forum that you have to register to be part of. Prove that you are at least ACA certified and your in.

Maybe I will start one.

http://www.nu-tel.com

 

[alankrut]

sizbut,

i am relatively new to this forum but i am seeing great enthusiasm and collaboration..

as far as OEMs n integrators/vendors, there is a lot for them to collect feedback from and if they are open it is the product platform which is going to benefit the most and so the users..

i am sure you will be very much around..

lets all keep this thing improving...

good luck

 

[tlpeter]

Sizbut,

I think we will see you back here one way or the other
Thanks for your time and kick some ass



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[IPOfficeIreland]

going out in style! I like it...

 

[TomMills]

Notsetinstone.

you should start that forum, leave here and stay there on your own.

his employer isnt correct. where would any of us be without this forum? we come here to share ideas and experiences, and help each other out.

i bet not one person will post here saying they havent learnt anything from reading peoples replies.

do you know how much "soccer" is on tv on saturdays in the uk. i still come on here. and so does jamie77 and mattknight and amriddle02, so does tlpeter and intrigrant and bas1234 (yes i know you guys arent in the uk!)

your the only one with a chip on your shoulder, if you dont like helping people out, then dont bother logging on. quite simple really.

let me know when ou have sorted your ACA only forum out, ill be the first one to sign up!




arsene knows......

everything. apart from the importance of depth in a squad. and what a chequebook looks like......

 

[Westi]

Goodbye SIZBUT and maybe you just need a new "handle" on things. Should you need support and help tell your boss to post here and see how helpful this forum is without bias, except if you won't listen to good advise given and keep complaining.
All the best to wherever you are from Canada and Cider sounds good I think I join in.

Joe W.

FHandw., ACS

If you can't be good, be good at it!

 

[Notsetinstone]

I am confused. I don't see how I have a chip on my shoulder. Did you read the previous post in full?

Am I misreading you? You tell to go start it ( which I have begun the process) tell me to go be there by myself then tell me you will join.

Thing get lost or misinterpreted when you tpye it so maybe I am missing something.

Look I never said not to give it away for free, it your choice. I struggle with balancing free and pay and I think his employer is correct. You don't have to agree.

I agree with you that this forum is a HUGE help. that's why I am conflicted.

Where would I be without this forum, Calling Tier 3 for every little thing just to bust horns.

http://www.nu-tel.com

 

[tlpeter]

When customers have to pay for service and come over here and get the answer form the same people who they normaly call then i can understand the boss
Then it is wasting money

I think a tech only forum is a good idea but i still would be looking here
Some questions do make me laugh


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[Westi]

I see the problem with giving out advice for free, because my boss wants to make money too, but mostly people that go here would not call us anyways and I have gotten so much out of this forum that I can justify giving little hints here and there and it keeps my brain fit (as fit as it ever will be at least).
Problem: the boss doesn't see that and just expects you to know it all at the push of a button because the bosses just don't know what is involved in this system and the 3 or 4 others one manages with the 100 different releases. Nevertheless they sign the paycheck and so if they don't allow us to do this then they can (try).
Lucky the ones that work from a home office.

Joe W.

FHandw., ACS

If you can't be good, be good at it!

 

[tlpeter]

Do not forget that this forum is also a lot of knowledge
You keep up with the latest features and little bugs
If you doubt why something does not work you look overhere and see that you are not going crazy or search for a couple of minutes instead of trying for a couple of hours !!!

It is not all about losing money but also earning time that you can use for other things


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[Westi]

also another point is that some people are here on Saturdays and Sundays where they broaden their horizon without getting paid, that is not paid by the company but they still benefit from it.
SIZBUT you might get some better and smarter managers soon and they might realize the benefit of your doing here. If not then you should look for a new company because the one you work for will not do well in the next few years.

Joe W.

FHandw., ACS

If you can't be good, be good at it!