Show me the money!! 3

[iwease]

Hey,

I'm just curious what companies pay well.

I hear google and microsoft pay well. Who else?

 

[mrdenny]

Lots of companies pay well. I don't know about google, but Microsoft is not considdered one of them. I was called about a position at Microsoft (a few actually) and the salary that they told me was $10-$20k less than I was making at the time (depending on the job).

I would assume that Google pays average. Large companies like Google and Microsoft don't have to pay all that well because people want to work there. There thinking is that you want our name on your resume. For that privilage it's going to cost you.

Denny
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[Stella740pl]

Large companies like Google and Microsoft don't have to pay all that well because people want to work there. There thinking is that you want our name on your resume.

Not only this.
From what I heard, at least about Microsoft, their stocks are a part of their benefit package after some years of work. So when Microsoft is going up, their loyal employees have a very nice addition to the salary.
But I don't know all the details for sure.

 

[LadySlinger]

I personally think that small-medium businesses pay a little bit better than the larger corporations. But...I'm speaking more money in the pocket versus money that is accruing.

I guess it just depends on what you mean by "pay well". More money in the pocket? Such as they hand you a nice salary, but the benefits package is a little weak, or a little less salary, but the benies are great or phenominal...

 

[finalee]

I agree, I tend to find mid-sized organisations pay better as you always end up with a broader role with more responsibility.

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[iwease]

what defines mid-sized ... how many employees?

 

[xmsre]

From what I heard, at least about Microsoft, their stocks are a part of their benefit package after some years of work."

They stopped giving options when the stock price stagnated, and started giving much smaller grants.

I never made a dime off the options.

 

[chiph]

There are too many variables to speak with any certainty, but:

1. Region: Northeast tends to pay more than the Midwest, partly because the cost of living is higher there.

2. Industry: Finance tends to pay more than manufacturing

3. Product: Software companies (firms that sell software as their product) will tend to pay more than firms that only use software internally. Exception: game companies.

Chip H.


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[mmorancbt]

I don't follow the pay trends of various companies. It tends to skew opinion and opportunity with little context. Instead, create an income goal, a strong value statement, and then pitch that to companies you are interested in. If you convince them and then prove your value, you can convince them to pay you what you want.

If not, find another company.

As anyone who has read my post here and my blog know, I am a strong believer in greater opportunity and pay at companies between 50-200 or so employees. Why? Greater responsibility, greater opportunity to make a positive impact, and more opportunity to work directly with owners and executive managers - those who can approve pay outside of the "average."

On the flip-side, you can't coast and cannot hide - lack of productivity will kill you in that environment.

I am currently doing a series of blogs on Increasing Income - although my current focus is on financial control. You can find them on my blog at:

http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/pm/career/

Look down the page for "Money Matters:"

Enjoy!

Matthew Moran (career blog and podcast below)
Career Advice with Attitude for the IT Pro

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http://techcareerconsult.blogspot.com

 

[IT4EVR]

I think the big mistake people make is to judge companies/jobs by the salary alone. Benefits are really hard to quantify but really are an important component. Things to look at are...

1) Does a company match 401k and to what percent do they match? Matching basically amounts to a free bonus added to your salary.

2) Paid time off...again this amounts to a free bonus added to your salary.

3) Do they pay for training? How much is a company willing to pay per year for training and education.

This is only a tip of the iceberg.

 

[lespaul]

Benefits are really hard to quantify but really are an important component.

One of our HR people put together a questionniare 'What are your benefits worth' that allowed me to actually calculate a more accurate job value.

I work for the State of NM. I recently found out that one of the people I graduated with is making about $25,000 more per year than I am (just looking at base salary), but when my benefits are added in (retirement!! gotta love the defined benefit plans!), I'm making about the same as he is and after I stick it out another 20 years, I'll get a paycheck for the rest of my life.

Leslie

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