sHARING BROADBAND

[sirlojik]

Hi all,
I would like to share my neighbours broadband. It utilises an adsl unit which plugs in using usb. is there a way i can tap his broadband. do i need to get a router? or do i need to get ethernet cards?

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[biglebowski]

Firstly I hope he is aware and has agreed to this.

Easiest way would be to use a wireless router, what is the distance from your pc to his adsl point? and are there any thick walls in the way? Have a look at this

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WPN824.php

If wireless is a nogo then use a router that has a switch built in. Have a look at this

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/RP614.php

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[norty303]

Its amazing how many unsecured networks there are now, with more coming on all the time now most ISP's are recommending wireless.

My girlfriend now has access to 5 in her flat in addition to her own!! Some are even more reliable too!

 

[biglebowski]

A lot of friends have gone to wireless and when I mention WEP to them i just get a blank look. I advise people to use MAC access lists on their router as it is the easiest thing to configure and manage.

That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

 

[paparazi]

sirlojik
Cheapest and most reliable way is to have an ethernet adapter in both machines and physically connect them with a crossover Cat5 network cable.
Use your network wizard
Go to setup small office network
Follow "This computer connects to the internet through a residual gateway or through another PC on my network"
Complete this step by step process.
You should now have an internet connection.

Drawbacks**** the connection will only be available when his PC is turned on.
Plus points**** cheap and reliable connection as most PC's now already have Ethernet connection and a suitable cable should be less than $18

Martin


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[sirlojik]

Yes he has allowed me. i dnt want to go wireless as that is expensive and i dnt want other pple slowing the connection by tappingf into the access point.

both our computers dnt have ethernet cards or cable. so will it still be cheaper than going wireless?

BTW, thanx a lot for your help gents.

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[biglebowski]

if cost is an issue as paparazi says ethernet cards and a crossover are the way to go. The ethernet card will work out way cheaper than wireless. The max distance you can run cat5 (the crossover cable) is 300ft but try and keep it below that. If you go with wireless you can set the routers to use a mac address based access list which will stop others from tapping into your wireless.

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[paparazi]

sirlojik
10/100 PCI Ethernet cards are very cheap, less than $10
So two cards and a 15metre X over cable shouldn't set you back more than $40

Martin

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[sirlojik]

cheers matey. 10/100 is the way forward.

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[DTSMAN]

Little off topic.
Speaking of sharing like this. Coworker got the Dish Netork system with 4 hookups and is sharing the cost with his neighbor. Each took two drops, one bill. I see alot more of this coming on, especially with friends in duplexes and apartments, with sharing out dsl and satelite services.

Bo

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[SirNuke]

Buying a wireless network isn't overally expensive, just perhaps time consuming. For example, I recently setup a friend's network for
1x PCMCIA 802.11g for $10
1x PCI 802.11g for $10
1x Router 802.11g for $9
(After mail in rebates. Typically every Sunday local big name stores will offer dlink/netgear/belkin whoever for discounted prices.)

The 54mbps is fast enough for Internet browsing (for gaming or file sharing then go wired). WPA (acctually WPA-PSK, where it generates a key based off a password) is very easy to setup, and doesn't have the easy to break into problems that WEP has. MAC filtering works quite well (stops someone from accidently getting on your network, as well as stops someone from easily peeping), but doesn't stop someone from using a packet sniffer (plus the fact that MAC addresses are relativily easy to spoof).

One thing that should be noted is that while Windows (I know that XP can do this, and I believe that 2000 as well) can be setup to share a Internet connection, in my experience it does this quite poorly. Even if you do decide to go with wired connection, I suggest you get a router to share the connection (which has other advantages such as a blocking a lot of junk traffic).

 

[paparazi]

SirNuke
Any chance you could post some links for the prices you mention.
These seem extremely low so please post the retailers links as I'm sure i'm not the only one who would be interested at buying at these prices.

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[africanviolet]

as this is along the same lines. i am having MAJOR difficulties setting up an adhoc network. we have used all the configeration tols on XP and the computers do see each other but just won't hook up. any advice or similar tales

 

[DTSMAN]

Oh yea. Post some links. Nine dollar router?

Bo

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[SirNuke]

Sure thing.

PCMCIA 802.11g $10


PCI Desktop 802.11g $10

[link

http://compusa.crossmediaservices.c...storeid=2402193&CatTreeID=52699&L1CatID=52699

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Router 802.11g $10[/url]
(I have seen it for 9 in the past, don't shoot me)


Another PCMCIA 802.11g $10


Desktop 802.11g $8


USB 802.11g $10

I know that everyone here isn't in the US (nor am I sure how 'far' CompUSA extends across the US), but a lot of big brand stores offer mail-in rebates on wireless equipment almost every day. Yeah, the rebates are pain but you can get network equipment for next to nothing with them. Where I live, all of the stores put ads in the Sunday newspapers, which typically advertise which brand is offering the big rebates each week. (The motorola equipment is VERY nice, and its 19.99 after rebates for a router and/or pcmcia and/or USB and/or PCI cards. I highly suggest it for you aren't on to much of a limb price wise [the router configuration page alone, in my opinion, is worth the extra 10 per device]).

Keep in mind that you will have to pay full price up front, and that you can only buy on of each type (USB/PCI/PCMCIA/Router of each brand) at a time and get the rebates (there isn't anything wrong with mix and matching brands if you need, for example, two PCI cards). A;so be very careful about dates and make sure that all of the rebates are still in effect when you buy the stuff (I have had a couple of times where I bought the equipment only to realnize that the particular rebates had to have the equipment bought the previous day, and the store hasn't taken down the signs yet).

On a side note, in my experience Ad Hoc networks can be quite iffy, and its much better to just buy a router.