Primary IDE on KT4V not working

[EtruscanPH]

The issue: Sometimes the Primary IDE detects whatever is attached to it (currently the DVD-ROM drive) and sometimes it does not.

Athlon XP 2200+
MSI KT4V via KT400 w/Lan
MSI GeForce4 4800SE Vid Card
SoundBlaster Audigy 2
Maxtor 7200rpm 80gig
LG DVD-ROM
512mb PC2700 DDR333 SDRAM
300watt Power Supply

Ok. So, the main factor seems to be the Audigy. When it's out, the primary IDE, the DVD-ROM in this case, gets detected. When it's in, the primary IDE doesn't detect.

I've tried all sorts of things - but I'm a little lost for ideas at this point. Was wondering if anyone has seen anything like this before - or if maybe it's a motherboard problem.

 

[zyphac]

I have a few friends who bought audigy 2 cards and have had problems with them. You could go through your PCI slots a try each one. See if there are any Bios updates. Change the DVD Master/slave to Cable select. Also one of my friends had a soyo kt333 lite and a audigy2 that would not work until he got a new MB asus. Also this card doesn't do well with FSB overclocking.

zypha

 

[EtruscanPH]

Well, the Audigy2 works with the mobo. Only problem is, the HD won't detect on the primary IDE channel. It's currently set up so the DVD-ROM is the primary IDE, and the HD is the secondary. But this is working around the problem... I'm trying to find a more reasonable solution.

I'll buy a new mobo if that's what it's going to take. But I just need to figure it out. Why would IDE1 detect the DVD but not the HD, I wonder?

 

[BuckeyeComputers]

What type of harddrive is it?... sounds more like a conflict then a severe problem, try removing the dvd and just run the harddrive as primary master and see how it does

 

[zyphac]

I have learned from experience that cd/dvd on the same channel with the hard drive can cause problems. try putting the dvd on the secondary IDE. If the secondary is full the put the hard drive as master and the DVD as cable select.

 

[Comtech]

I would put the hard drive solo on the primary master, and move the optical drives to the secondary channel.
If the hard drive won't detect properly, then I suspect a jumper or cable issue.
If you're using an 80 wire cable, set the hard drive to CS, and put it on the black connector on the cable, blue to mobo, and grey for a slave.
I have had little trouble with a regular CD-ROM as slave (or master) with a hard drive, but some CDRW, and most DVD drives don't like to be on the same channel as a hard drive. Cheers,
Jim

http://members.cnx.net/reboot/

 

[EtruscanPH]

Okay. Perhaps I wasn't specific enough. I have it set so the Maxtor HD is the Primary Master, the DVDROM is the secondary master... no dice. The DVD will detect... but the HD, no way.

The jumpers are set properly. I tried removing the DVD's IDE cable from the board to see if the HD would detect on its own, as a Primary Master... nope.

Currently, so it'll work, I have the DVD set as the Primary Master and the HD as the Secondary Master. In this configuration, it works okay. Although, it's tenuous. If I start fidgeting around in there again, chances are something (likely the Primary) won't detect on next bootup.

 

[Comtech]

On an 80 wire cable, Maxtor drives require that you remove all the jumpers for proper operation.
Only if there's a slave attached would you jumper the drive as master.
I would think that putting the Audigy in a different slot should solve it's problems, as a sound card should have absolutely nothing to do with an IDE device not booting. Cheers,
Jim

http://members.cnx.net/reboot/

 

[firewolfrl]

move the audigy to a different slot
set the drives to cable select and try that.
make sure you are using 80 pin cable.
the big issue might not be the MB or HD.
your power supply is too small for your system.
if the BIOS supports it, use HD Delay of 3 seconds or more.
Do not put the audigy card in the PCI slot 1 under the AGP card.
both the audigy and the video card are power intensive at boot.
you may still have a conflict at the IDE bus.
it doesn't hurt to run HD on the secondary IDE cable and the DVD on the Primary.
you need at least a 400 watt power supply for stability.

 

[EtruscanPH]

Okay, yes... the PS is too small for the system, but I was thinking it could handle it relatively well. I'll likely purchase a 400 watt in the next while.

Also, I have tried moving the sound card around (having heard about problems with the Audigy 2 and MSI boards), and moved it to PCI 1 - no difference really. I'll move it out of there, though, firewolfrl.

I'm going to try removing the jumper off the Maxtor and see what happens.

 

[firewolfrl]

The Reason for not using the PCI slot1 for the audigy is because slot1 and the AGP bus share and this results in a conflict.
go read this artitcle on PS before you buy one.

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/guides/power_supply/

you might consider a different sound card.... the creative 5.1 is cheap and sounds good

 

[just1guy]

To EtruscanPH:

The problem may not be the Audigy 2

Go directly to

http://www.msi.com.tw

and look up you Motherboard and get to the bios update section. Look up: Version 1.7 12/26/02

Read the bugs it fixes. There is a fix for: "Fixed system somtimes will have IDE CRC error."

You want to look at all the updates and see what else can help.

I hope I was of some help.

 

[zyphac]

The CRC error has nothing to do with the problem. His Primary IDE sometime detects his hard drive. CRC deals with the data itself, not the detection of the drive. I have never really like MSI boards I alwas have had problems with the in one form or another.