Phonetic spelling ??? 2

[mjldba]

This MSNBC article "grinds" on my eyes because it approaches IM'ing and texting-type spelling.

I find these methods of communication impossible to read because my mind ignores the content and, instead, screams "ERROR" "ERROR", but it does represent a valid topic for discussion

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13716134/

 

[2ffat]

This isn't the first time fonetic spelling has been tried in the US. Remember Daniel Webster. He was somewhat successful, e.g., color vs. colour.

Early pioneers also tried to do it when they colonized the West, too. There was the Deseret (spelling is correct) Alphabet for example.

It won't be the last, either.

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The European Union Commission have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, the British government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c".
Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard
"c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but
typewriters kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik
enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced
by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always
ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes
of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing
"th" by "z" and "w" by "v". During se fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be
dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be apld
to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a reli
sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun wil
find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

James P. Cottingham
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[SantaMufasa]

James,

You are one of the very few (outside of Utah) that is aware of anything "Deseret" (pronounced fonetikly: "Dez ur et'"). You can click this link for the full Deseret alphabet, along with sample sentences and their translations.

What is the extent of your familiarity with things Deseret, James?

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
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[PaulTEG]

Questions on fora in txtspk (or leetspeak) are rarely answered, with the exception of asking the proposer to rephrase in english. This, I assume, is laziness on the part of the answerer in that, if this question is answered, it will have to be answered again when posed in english.

Could there be a more sinister motive behind driving peoples communication abilities apart, surely this would create a new 'class' division ... or am I overdosing on the skeptic juice ;-)?

Paul
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[Lunatic]

2ffat

Thank you! You don't know how long I've been looking for that 'simplification' of the English language. I believe I first saw it in the early 90's while I was in grade school.

I remember it as being the Queen requesting the simplifcation of the language. But as times change...

 

[2ffat]

Santa,
[tab]I thought I had told you I grew up in southern Idaho and attended BYU. ;-)


James P. Cottingham
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[SantaMufasa]

If you have told me that, then we'll have to write off this "oversight" of mine to "Old-timers Disease." Sorry.

Go Cougars...Go Blue !!!

Mufasa
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[tsdragon]

While we're at it, let's eliminate poverty by giving everyone $1 million, shall we?

In this case is more like eliminating poverty by taking all the money away from everyone.

The next step after the phonetic alphabet is the elimination of synonyms. Then poetry and writing will quickly die off. To paraphrase Shakespeare: "'Tis a consumation devoutly to be missed."


Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[tsdragon]

While we're on the topic of "dumbing down" the language. I've noticed another disturbing trend: shortening words of three or more syllables to two syllables or less. Here's a couple of examples:

addy: email address (I really hate this one)
vacay: vacation (I really hate this one too)

(OK, I really hate ALL of them)

I didn't get much sleep last night, and that's all the examples my befuddled brain can come up with. Anyone got any more?


Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[mmerlinn]

info: information, lol


mmerlinn

"Political correctness is the BADGE of a COWARD!"

 

[Scott24x7]

Tracy,
Try living in Australia... they revel in shortening words... they tend to put an O or an I (Y) sound on the end. Here are some examples:

Relatives = Relo's
Presents = Presies
Christmas = Chrisy

and yes, you gessed it,
Christmas Present = Chrisy Presy

They have heaps of others, they can be quite amusing in their usage sometimes.



Best Regards,
Scott

&quot;Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler.&quot;

 

[gbaughma]

Well, I still call my Umbrella a Brolly. However, I think I picked that up from the brits, and just adopted it. My wife thinks it's cute. <lol>



Just my 2¢

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[SilentAiche]

Personally, I favor lowering the bar.

That way, after falling down, you can shtill order another round without shtanding up.

"Vertigo"


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[Skie]

Chrisy presy sounds like baby talk. It's not like Chrisy is much shorter when spoken than Christmas and X-Mas is much shorter than both for written.

As far as shortening words, if they catch on they'll probably be added to the dictionary (or the meaning added):
Perk - Perquisite
Info - Information
Sub - Substitute
Bro - Brother
Sis - Sister
Mom - Mother
Bra - Brassiere

 

[buck2506]

Sorry for posting this late but shouldn't the heading for this thread be

fonetik speling

 

[mjldba]

Could've been, but I didn't want to be a party to the problem.

 

[Gooser]

bbfn ttyl, po!

v/r

Gooser

Why do today
that which may not need to be done tomorrow --me