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I'm not sure if this is the right place but it's as close as i can get.

What do you call something that you give or send to someone - seemingly for no apparent reason - but really it's a sweetener so you can get something back from them sometime in the future?

I.e. they will be obliged to give you something because you gave them something before.
 
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I think the problem with the word bribe is that to me (but not according to Merriam or Webster apparently) a bribe is something entered into as an agreement:

I'll give you X if you'll give me Y...

What I read from faxof is a different situation, where only one person (the giver) understands that there ought to be an in-kind repayment. I don't see where that should carry the weight that the word bribe does.

~Thadeus
 
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Ok, I'll buy that.

I agree that both my examples fall under the definition of "bribe" that you posted.

Then, perhaps, though "bribe" is a correct word, foxof is looking for a more specific word that does imply that lack of specificity.
 
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I think one difference is that bribe carries the connotation of an immediate payback, or an obvious quid pro quo. That and bribery is in some cases illegal. So we must do something else to comply with the law and to disassociate the returned favor.

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There may be some additional distinctions necessary. If one gives a "gift" to someone without specific quid pro quo, but with the hope for generally favourable treatment when the opportunity arises, then you must look at an additional aspect. If the recipient's branch of government:

1) Judicial...gift = bribe.
2) Executive or Legislative...gift = campaign contibution.

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CC, I didn't quite follow that, could you regrammaritize it for public consumption? I know I always think faster than my fingers too....

~Thadeus

PS. which is why it was almost "thin fater"
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Higgins

Would [blue]JUst a Mindless Thought[/blue] pass muster?

Or, have I JUMT to a conclusion?

Tim

Oh my, "[red]T[/red]ime [red]I[/red]s [red]M[/red]oney" is in deep doo-doo...

Gosh, I hope this isn't one of those [green]Thread-In-Thread[/green] discussions.



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I kind of like the "investment" idea, but I think a "blind investment" would be a little better. Most of the other suggestions already have different connotations.

BocaBurger: wasabi is fine with me. I like to vary my diet, and I love foreign (to me) food. The only think I'll definitely rule out is Ketchup (or Catsup). I really don't care for the stuff (except on meatloaf sandwiches). The phrase I use for my sig I originally read with Ketchup. Since I don't like Ketchup, I modified it.


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For you are crunchy, and good with mustard. [dragon]
 
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Sounds more like a Post-in-Post discussion ;-)



Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: 'Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*&4ru!2[sACC~ErJ'. The second string says: 'Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated'.
 
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And that would be different from all the other threads in this forum how?

(Is that an odd sentence structure or what?)

(And the last time you saw someone end TWO sentences with question words was when?)

(You saw it where?)

(I'll leave it for someone else to contribute the "who" and "why".)

Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard. [dragon]
 
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Argh! Not staying on topic, while often amusing, is frustrating! [smile]

I wish I could send posts to new/other threads. But then, I want to get out of the business entirely, anyway! [smile][smile][smile]
 
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Erik, I'll bet you find Robin Williams very irritating and less than amusing since "staying on topic" is against his religion. I'll also bet that your "Post-WordPlay" days will result in a 30-40 point drop in your blood pressure, as well.

For any part that I may have played in "thread straying", I apologise. I will say, however, that some of the most entertainment that I have had in WordPlay has been "off in the weeds."

Regards to you and the bride,

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Sometimes the topic is to not stay on topic! That, I like. :)

It's more the scientific part of me that likes staying on topic than the obsessive part. When we stray, I think, "but wait, we didn't solve the question at hand! We didn't have our a-ha moment! We left something unsolved!"

I totally enjoy and excel at non-sequitur games. But I like playing by the rules. It's not so hard to start a new thread... [smile]

I'd also probably be more easygoing about it if I weren't so frustrated about my job, which can be summed up in the phrase "turning turd into gold." It's a much harder task that turning lead into gold, most certainly!
 
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E2,

I'm sorry about going *way* off topic earlier with my 16:49 post. (Can you tell I wasn't much in the mood to actually work at work today?).

But IMHO, the problem is that faxof gave us a nice juicy question at 7:30 AM. There were about a dozen on-topic posts in a row, most of which offered multiple suggestions. But faxof hasn't come back to let us know if we answered the question, or to offer any input as to the direction in which we should proceed. The natives are hungry, and not being properly fed we created our own topics of conversation/ amusement.

When it comes down to it, the entire thread probably should have been posted in MAI in the first place. It's not really wordplay at all, unless I'm really missing something.

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[rofl]
->I'll bet we were twins, separated at birth. (I was the short, fat, ugly twin.)
Yes, and I was the Tall, svelte, handsome newborn. You know, like on TV. The baby who doesn't have any goo on him, who doesn't cry. Like that, but with the face of Brad Pitt and abs you could do your laundry on. Yeah that was me. Honest. No, really... [gray]Why is everyone laughing and pointing at me?[/gray]

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Oh, I noticed that it should have been in MAI (incorrectly referred to as MIA betimes), but it was too late to do anything about it by the time I arrived. So I said nothing! And after all, we were inventing words to fit a meaning, so it wasn't purely a word study but also had elements of word play...

But anyway, the tek-tips forums take too much of my time, at all hours of the day. I have to change that.
 
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Five points for working the word svelte into this thread. However, I find handsome somewhat redundant... doesn't svelte already have the connotation of being attractive? minus point.

What do you call something that you give or send to someone - seemingly for no apparent reason - but really it's a sweetener so you can get something back from them sometime in the future?
Click to expand...

A manipulation?
Law/Rule of reciprocity?


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I like the word gift. Because in reality, if you give something to someone and have not explicitly stated you expect stuff in return, you have given them a gift.

If faxof returns to clear this up, and it turns out that both parties know what's going on in this exchange, then I'll go with bribe.

I made an assumption when I read the first post:
1. Faxof had received (or witnessed the receiving of) some gift from someone.
2. There was a belief (founded or unfounded) on their part that some reciprocation was expected.

And so Faxof was attempting to put a name to this event.

~Thadeus
 
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