Need more ethernet connections to our VMS box 2

[mattlyon]

Hello,

I just started a Sys Admin position with a Windoze network that includes a VMS server for historical data.

The server is being accessed via a Lantronix ETS16 Ethernet Terminal Server. This device seems to only allow a maximum of eight connections.

I need to setup another one and was hoping that somebody could provide the basic steps required to set this up?

 

[js2801]

mattlyon,

Since you do not seem to be running UCX or HP TCPIP, is it possible that you are running Multinet or TCPware? Use a directory command to see if there are any Multinet or TCPware directories on disk.

Check you sys$help directory and look for any ".release_notes" files that mention any IP stack software.

Example:

$ DIR SYS$HELP:*.RELEASE_NOTES

Also, can you post the port confirutation from your terminal server. I'm suspect that you may be running LAT instead of telnet.

Jeff

 

[mattlyon]

Local_18> list server

ETS16 Version V3.5/9(990603) Uptime: 1 Day 22:48
Hardware Addr: 00-80-a3-01-3d-0b Name/Nodenum: LAT1/ 0
Ident String: ETS Terminal Server

LAT Circuit Timer (msec): 80 Password Limit: 3
Inactive Timer (min): 30 Console Port: 1
Queue Limit: 32 Retrans Limit: 50
Keepalive Timer (sec): 20 Session Limit: 4
Multicast Timer (sec): 30 Node/Host Limits: 50/20

TCP/IP Address: 192.168.1.5 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Nameserver: (undefined) Backup Nameserver: (undefined)
TCP/IP Gateway: 192.168.1.1 Backup Gateway: (undefined)
Domain Name: none IP Time: Daytime
TCP Keepalives: Enabled

Serial Delay (msec): 30 Network Buffering: 512
Prompt: Local_%n%P>
Groups: 0

Characteristics: Announce Broadcast Lock
Incoming Logins: Telnet (No Passwords Required)

 

[mattlyon]

Local_18> list protocols
ETS16 Version V3.5/9(990603) Uptime: 1 Day 22:48
Hardware Addr: 00-80-a3-01-3d-0b Name/Nodenum: LAT1/ 0
Ident String: ETS Terminal Server

%Info: Note that count values are not valid with LIST.
Received Sent Seconds since zeroed: 168522
LAT Messages: 0 0 Solicit Accepted: 0
Retransmissions: 0 0 Solicit Rejected: 0
Illegal Slot: 0 0 Illegal Messages Recv: 0

TCP Messages: 64333 105410 Connect Failure Reasons: 0000
Invalid Packets: 715 0 Invalid Packet Reasons: 0032

APPLE (disabled.)

NETW (disabled.)

NetBIOS packets: 3896 10 Sessions: 0
SMB packets: 0 0 Unknown types: 0

 

[mattlyon]

The only release notes that come up are for a Dibol compiler.

 

[mattlyon]

$ dir

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SIDEDOOR]

0110TEST.TXT;1 05SALES.DDF;2 05SALESST.DDF;1 130860SALES.TXT;1
1NOR2.TXT;1 2000.TXT;1 2003.TXT;1 2005.TXT;2
ACCOUNT_SUB_MENU.COM;1 ADDUSER.COM;3 ADMENU.COM;1
ALLOC.COM;1 ALLOC.LOG;1 APMENU.COM;2 APOPEN.TXT;1
APSWCHGS.TXT;1 APVEND.TXT;1 AP_COPY.COM;7 AP_COPY_CLW.COM;2
AP_COPY_PMB.COM;2 ARMENU.COM;1 AROP.TXT;1 AROPEN.TXT;1
AR_COPY.COM;4 B14.NEW;1 B14.SIX;1 BACKUP.DIR;1
BACKUP_2001.COM;1 BACKUP_2001.LOG;1 BACKUP_CLW1.LOG;2 BACKUP_CLW2.LOG;1
BACKUP_DUA2.COM;3 BACKUP_NEW.LOG;1 BAKORD.CLW;12 BARBARA.COM;1
BARCODE.TXT;1 BFSUND.CLW;46 BG1.XLS;1 BLANK.TXT;1
BLDWRK.COM;2 BLDWRK.LOG;181 BMMENU.COM;2 BMPCAT.CLW;1
BOATCD.CLW;2 BOATXT.CLW;35 BOINDX.CLW;2 BOTINQ.COM;1
BUILD_UP.COM;2 BUILD_UP.LOG;127 CANORD.CLW;74 CASH00.CLW;1
CATEGF.CLW;2 CCDIDX.CLW;10 CCW_ACCT_LIST_BY_SCH_CODE.TXT;2
CCW_ACCT_LIST_BY_STMT_CODE.TXT;4 CHGLOG.CLW;73 CHGPO.GFI;1
CHGPO.PRN;2 CHKDIR.COM;3 CLRFIL.COM;1 CLW.DIR;1
CLWCUS.TXT;1 CLWCUSTLOAD.TXT;1 CLWF.DDF;1 CLWMENTERR.DDF;1
CLWMISCCUST.DDF;1 CLWS.DDF;1 CLWSALESBYSTATE.DDF;1
CLW_ACCT_LIST_BY_STMT_CODE.TXT;2 CLW_FAX.LOG;4 CNTDDF.COM;3
CODEC.DDF;1 CODES.CLW;3 CODES2.CLW;2 COLECT.CLW;1
COMDUE.CLW;1 CONMNT.COM;1 COPCTL.CLW;1 COPYGL.COM;1
COPY_ACCTNG.COM;3 COPY_AP_TO_2CW.COM;2 COPY_AP_TO_9CW.COM;2
COPY_A_FILE.COM;6 COPY_BEFORE_REBUILD.COM;7 COPY_COST.COM;4
COPY_COST_BRN.COM;2 COPY_GL.COM;9 COPY_GL.TXT;6 COPY_HISTORY.COM;3
COPY_MODMAS.COM;1 COPY_PAY.COM;8 COPY_TO_DUA2.COM;6 COPY_TO_TST.COM;1
CPMENU.COM;1 CRMHDR.CLW;1 CRMHST.CLW;5 CRMLIN.CLW;1
CSN.DDF;1 CSNOTE.CLW;3 CSTMAS.CL;7 CSTMAS.CLW;7
CSTMAS.SEQ;1 CUSEXT.CLW;3 CUSHIPCOM.DDF;1 CUSLBL.CLW;155
CUSMS2.CLW;3 CUSMS2.SEQ;1 CUSMS2.TXT;3 CUSMS2N.TXT;1
CUSTERMS.DDF;1 CUSTMAS.TXT;1 CUSTXT.CLW;75 DAT.FIL;4
DBAIDX.CLW;2 DEBBIE.COM;1 DED401.CLW;1 DELITM.CLW;1
DEL_FILES.COM;8 DEPDST.CLW;1 DEPREC.CLW;1 DICTMAIN.NEW;1
DICTTEXT.NEW;1 DICT_BRIEF.TXT;1 DICT_DETAIL.TXT;1 DIF.RPT;1
DLSTAT.CLW;2 DOLLAR.BMP;1 DOWNFAX.;5 DPTWRK.CLW;4
DRUG_TEST.COM;2 DSTHDR.CLW;63 DSTLIN.CLW;66 DSTTBL.CLW;1
DUA0.LIST;1 EFFBL2.COM;3 EFFBL2.LOG;1383 EFFGEN.COM;5
EFFGN2.COM;2 EFFGN2.LOG;208 EFFMNT.COM;4 EFFMNT_MENU.COM;1
ENGINCNG.XLS;1 ERRLOG.COM;5 ERROR.TXT;1 ERROR1.TXT;1
ERROR2.TXT;1 ERROR3.TXT;1 ERROR4.TXT;1 ERROR_LOG_FILES.DIR1
FAX.COM;1 FAX.DIR;1 FAX.TXT;1 FAXDIR.DDF;1
FAXREMIT.TXT;1 FAX_IT.LOG;1 FILEBACK.COM;30 FRAMES.XLS;1
GENBOM.COM;6 GENBOM.LOG;133 GLMENU.COM;1 GLTRANS.TXT;1
GL_REPORT.TXT;1 GL_REPORT_2.TXT;1 GOLDFAX_CLEANUP.LOG;2
GOLDFAX_STATUS.RPT;1776 HLPMNT.COM;1 ICS.COM;2
ICSVLOG.DDF;1 IMMENU.COM;1 INTRUSION.COM;8 INVLOG.TXT;1
ITMPRG.LIST;2 KATHIENOTES.TXT;1 KCUST.TXT;1 KILL_QUE.COM;2
KILL_USER.COM;2 LASSITER1.RPT;1 LASSITER2.RPT;1 LASSITER3.RPT;1
LKSEE.COM;1 LOAD_REPORT.COM;4 LODRP2.COM;2 LODRPT.COM;2
LODUPD.COM;2 LODUPD.LOG;3164 LOGIN.COM;33 LOGIN.LIST;1
LOGIN.ORG110404;1 LOGIN_ORG.COM;1 LOOK.COM;2 MAIL$37AFAC5E0005001
MAIL.MAI;1 MAILING.DDF;1 MAILK.DDF;1 MCBAIN.COM;2
MCBA_FILE_STRUCTURES.TXT;1 MGRMENU.COM;22 MICHAEL.COM;1
MILLIE.COM;1 ML-EXP.SIX;1 ML-EXP1.SIX;1 MLTBM2.COM;2
MODEM.TXT;3978 MODEM.USERS;2 MODEM_USE.COM;17 MODEM_USE.LOG;3976
MOVE_MONTH.COM;16 MOVE_MONTH.LOG;1 MOVE_YEAR.COM;3 MRMENU.COM;1
MSGMNT.COM;1 NEWC.DDF;1 NEWCSNOTES.TXT;1 NEWCUST.DDF;1
NEWCUST.TXT;1 NEWCUST0.DDF;1 NEWF.DDF;1 NEW_FAX_98.TXT;1
NO2DEC04.TXT;1 NOTES.TXT;2 NULL.;1 OENUSE.COM;1
OENUSE.LOG;407 ONLIN2.TXT;3 ONLINE.TXT;2984 OPTC.DDF;1
OPTINQ.COM;2 ORDER.TXT;2 OWNER.COM;58 PARTS22.TXT;1
PARTSBK1.PM4;1 PAUL.COM;1 PAUL2.TXT;1 PAYROLL_DISTRIBUTIO1
PHONEBK.DDF;1 PIKDPT.COM;3 PIKDPT.LOG;3767 PKCOND.COM;1
PKLIN2.COM;3 PKLIN2.LOG;2845 PKMGRS.COM;1 PO.GFI;1
PO.PRN;2 POMENU.COM;1 PRGCAN.COM;2 PRGCAN.LOG;2727
PRHIST.FDL;2 PRICES2.TXT;1 PRINT_ACCTNG.COM;3 PRINT_BACKUP_LOG.CO4
PRINT_BACKUP_LOG.LOG;2702 PRINT_PRIOR_ACCTNG.COM;1
PROTECTION.COM;2 QALLOC.COM;7 QALLOC.LOG;1219 QTY_ALLOC.TXT;1
QUE.TXT;2 QUICK.COM;2 QUICK.LOG;2 REBUILD_CLW_CSTMAS.1
REBUILD_CLW_CSTMAS.LOG;1 REBUILD_CLW_ITMMAS.COM;1
REBUILD_CLW_ITMMAS.LOG;1 REBUILD_CLW_ITMMS2.COM;1
REBUILD_CLW_ITMMS2.LOG;1 REBUILD_CLW_NOTHDR.COM;1
REBUILD_CLW_NOTHDR.LOG;1 REBUILD_CLW_PRDSTR.COM;1
REBUILD_CLW_PRDSTR.LOG;1 REBUILD_MONTH_END_FILES.COM;4
REBUILD_MONTH_END_FILES.ORG;1 REBUILD_NEW_CSTMAS.COM;1
REBUILD_NEW_CSTMAS.LOG;1 REBUILD_NEW_ITMMAS.COM;1
REBUILD_NEW_ITMMAS.LOG;1 REBUILD_NEW_ITMMS2.COM;1
REBUILD_NEW_ITMMS2.LOG;1 REBUILD_NEW_NOTHDR.COM;1
REBUILD_NEW_NOTHDR.LOG;1 REBUILD_NEW_PRDSTR.COM;1
REBUILD_NEW_PRDSTR.LOG;1 RECALC.TXT;1 REMITFAX2.TXT;1
REMITFAXN.TXT;1 REMOVE_USER.COM;1 REPORT.COM;2 RFXACK.LST;1
RGAHST.TXT;1 RGALIN.TXT;1 RMSALE.TXT;3 RPG.COM;1
RSTART.COM;1 RUN.COM;6 SALES_MENU.COM;4 SCMENU.COM;1
SCRNCAPT.LOG;1 SECMNT.COM;1 SERVICE_TAGS_RGA.TXT;1
SETPROT2.COM;21 SHOW_USERS.COM;7 SHPDLR.COM;2 SIXEL.COM;1
SM.DDF;1 SPLDIR.BACKUP;1 SPLDIR.CURRENT;1 SPLDIR.XXX;1
SPOOL.COM;1 SPOOLED.TXT;1 STATE05.DDF;1 STATES05.DDF;1
STATES05C.DDF;1 STATES05K.DDF;1 SVCUPD.COM;1 SVCUPD.LOG;1630
SYSTEM_BACKUP.COM;31 SYSTEM_BACKUP.LOG;4460
SYSTEM_FUNCTIONS.COM;2 SYSUAF.BRIEF;35 SYSUAF.DAT;4
SYSUAF.FULL;36 SYSUAF.LIS;3 T01072005.TXT;1 TAPE.COM;2
TAPEBACK-H.COM;4 TAPEBACK-HI.COM;5 TAPEBACK-HU.COM;4 TAPEBACK-HUI.COM;4
TAPEBACK-HUI.LOG;133 TAPEBACK.COM;7 TAPEBACK.LOG;1
TAPEBACKI.29-JUN;1 TAPEBACKI.COM;11 TAPEBACKI.LOG;445 TAPE_BACKUP.COM;14
TAPE_BACKUP_FROM_BACKUP.COM;3 TAPE_BACKUP_FROM_BACKUP.LOG;1
TAPE_BACKUP_FROM_BACKUP_INIT.COM;1 TAPE_BACKUP_FROM_BACKUP_INIT.LOG;3
TAPE_BACKUP_LOG.30-MAR-1999;1 TEMP.DIR;1 TEMP1384.ISM;1
TEMP2.DIR;1 TEMP384.ISM;1 TEXASFAX.TXT;1 TILTLOGO.BMP;2
TIME.BMP;1 TIME.TIF;1 TIMMNU.COM;1 TMP.COM;1
TMP.FIL;7 TMP.SRT;4 TRANSFER1.DIR;1 TRANSFER2.DIR;1
TRANSFER3.DIR;1 TRANSFER_MENU.COM;3 TRANSFER_MENU2.COM;3
TRNTRX.TXT;1 T_SPECS.XLS;1 UAF.COM;3 UNEW.TXT;1
UNITSCLW.TXT;2 UNITSNEW.DDF;1 UNITSNEW.TXT;1 UNLOAD_ISAM.COM;7
UNLOAD_ISAM.LOG;3 UNLOAD_ISAM_2.COM;4 UNLOAD_ISAM_2.LOG;1 UPDQTY.COM;3
UPDQTY.LOG;2165 USERLIST.TXT;2 USER_2.TXT;1 USER_LOGINS.COM;1
VAXLINK2.EXE;1 VMAHACK2.TXT;1 VMSHACK.TXT;1 X.LST;2
X.X;1 XFS325.SCR;3 XPAND.COM;1 XRPT325.ZZQ;2
XRS325.SCR;2 XRS344.SCR;1 XRS384.SCR;2 XXX.DIR;1
YEAREND.LIST;4 YTDGLT.FDL;1 YTDGLT.TXT;1 YTDGLT2.TXT;1
ZIPCODE.TXT;3

Total of 389 files.

 

[mattlyon]

Sorry, but navigation is not what you would call intuitive! Obviously, Unix commands don't work either. This is ridiculous!

 

[js2801]

VMS v5.4 was years ago for me. So the details about it are a little foggy. You may have to search thru your system disk for any indication of IP software, maybe a $ DIR SYS$SYSDEVICE:[*...]*TCP* command. Can you ping your VMS system from your router?

The terminal server settings appear correct. Can you run a "SHOW or LIST PORT n" command from your terminal server and post that result? What I'm looking for is a line in the output the may say "PROTOCOL: LAT" or "PROTOCOL: TELNET". LAT is not a routable protocol. That would explain why your terminal server users cannot access VMS from remote locations.

 

[mattlyon]

$ DIR SYS$SYSDEVICE:[*...]*TCP*

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]

ESS$LASTCP.EXE;2 LATCP.EXE;1

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSHLP]

ESS$LASTCPHELP.HLB;1 LATCP.HLB;2

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]

DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP.EXE;1

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYSE.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]

ESS$LASTCP.EXE;2 LATCP.EXE;1

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYSE.SYSCOMMON.SYSHLP]

ESS$LASTCPHELP.HLB;1 LATCP.HLB;2

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYSE.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]

DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP.EXE;1

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]

ESS$LASTCP.EXE;2 LATCP.EXE;1

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VMS$COMMON.SYSHLP]

ESS$LASTCPHELP.HLB;1 LATCP.HLB;2

Total of 2 files.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VMS$COMMON.SYSLIB]

DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP.EXE;1

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_SOURCE.AD_SRC]

ITCPRT.AD;5

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_SOURCE.BMP_CNL]

NOTCPY.BIND;2

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_SOURCE.BMP_SRC]

NOTCPY.BMP;5

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_SOURCE.COP_CNL]

INITCP.COM;2

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_SOURCE.COP_SRC]

INITCP.COP;14

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_TASKS.BMP_EXE]

NOTCPY.EXE;4

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[Y2K_TASKS.COP_EXE]

INITCP.EXE;5

Total of 1 file.

Grand total of 16 directories, 22 files.

 

[BobGezelter]

mattlyon,

Let's go back to basics.

Go to a terminal that is connected to the working terminal server. Connect to the VAX.

You should be able to do a SHOW USERS/FULL command. What terminal does it say that you terminal server session is logged onto??

Robert "Bob" Gezelter,

http://www.rlgsc.com

 

[mattlyon]

Yes, I can ping the terminal server from the router.
It was accessable before I changed from a Covad/Netopia SDSL router to a Cisco router.

Local_18> list port

Port 18: Username: Physical Port 18 (Idle)

Access: Dynamic Local Switch: None
Backward: None Port Name: Cnsl_17
Break Ctrl: Local Session Limit: 4
Forward: None Terminal Type: Soft()

Preferred Services: (Lat)
(Telnet)

Authorized Groups : 0
(Current) Groups : 0

Characteristics: Autoprompt Broadcast Loss Notify Password
Verify Remote Conf Telnet Pad
Local_18> show port

Port 18: Username: manager Physical Port 18 (Telnet Login)

Access: Remote Local Switch: None
Backward: None Port Name: Telnt18
Break Ctrl: Local Session Limit: 4
Forward: None Terminal Type: Soft(ANSI)

Preferred Services: (Lat)
(Telnet)

Authorized Groups : 0
(Current) Groups : 0

Characteristics: Autoprompt Broadcast Loss Notify Verify
Remote Conf Telnet Pad

 

[mattlyon]

I am 'Manager_2', 'Manager' is at a terminal directly connected to the server.



$ show users/full
VAX/VMS User Processes at 3-AUG-2006 12:23:53.02
Total number of users = 7, number of processes = 8

Username Process Name PID Terminal
ERIC ERIC 00028BE1 TXC1:
MANAGER MANAGER 0002887C OPA0:
MANAGER MANAGER_2 00028D03 TXD8:
NICOLE NICOLE 000283E2 TXD9:
NO_SHOP NO_SHIPPING 000277EF TXD4:
SAMMY SAMMY 00028BC0 TXC5:
SHERI SHERI 000285D0 TXD10:
STEPHANIE STEPHANIE 000288BA TXC7:

 

[BobGezelter]

mattlyon,

If I am reading the output from your SHOW PORT command on the terminal server correctly, you may not be using TCP/IP to establish the terminal connection to the VAX.

Login to the VAX using an account that you can get to the "$" prompt. Then do a SHOW TERMINAL command.

Let me know the results.

Robert "Bob" Gezelter,

http://www.rlgsc.com

 

[mattlyon]

$ show terminal
Terminal: _TXD8: Device_Type: VT102 Owner: MANAGER_2
Username: MANAGER

Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 140 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24

Terminal Characteristics:
Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase Tab
Wrap Scope No Remote Eightbit
Broadcast No Readsync Form Fulldup
No Modem No Local_echo No Autobaud No Hangup
No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
Line Editing Overstrike editing No Fallback No Dialup
No Secure server No Disconnect No Pasthru No Syspassword
No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters Printer port Numeric Keypad
ANSI_CRT No Regis No Block_mode Advanced_video
Edit_mode DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2 No DEC_CRT3
No DEC_CRT4

 

[mattlyon]

Would it be ok to continue this via e-mail?

 

[BobGezelter]

mattlyon,

Login through the working terminal server. I need to see the name of the terminal device that is created for the terminal server-baed session.

Robert "Bob" Gezelter,

http://www.rlgsc.com

 

[BobGezelter]

mattlyon,

Yes.

Robert "Bob" Gezelter,

http://www.rlgsc.com

 

[PaulTEG]

IIRC Wollongong pathworks was a TCP product for around this time, but it's over 10 years since anyone let me near a VAX box. :-S

If it's a wild goose chase, sorry for wasting your time ...



Paul
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Spend an hour a week on CPAN, helps cure all known programming ailments ;-)

 

[PaulTEG]

Not what you'd like to hear, but according to

http://www.levitte.org/~ava/vms_hist.htmlx,

OpenVMS is currently at 7.3, and 5.4 is back as far as 1990, might be worth looking at upgrading the whole box.

Is that a viable suggestion? Have a look at the software you're supporting and if the vendors still exist, and if they support later versions of VMS

Just a thought


Paul
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Spend an hour a week on CPAN, helps cure all known programming ailments ;-)

 

[mattlyon]

The VMS box is for historical data. It has custom software installed on it and I really don't want to take any chances with it. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[mjpearson]

V5.x......I think I archived some that stuff in my memory bank.....

You might be running into the old Terminal Server Management (TSM) stuff and using LAT commands for the VMS side of the equation.

I think you can use TCP/IP for the Terminal Server side of the equation.

Caution.....If the terminal server box is using LAT protocol, MAKE SURE to capture the LAT license password in the configuration before you "default" the device. I think you can see license number when you view the existing configuration.


If you still have problems, I can try to find some of my notes about how to configure the Lantronix box. We can go off-line to send e-mail addresses if you're interested.


mike