Librarian wants to ban 5-time reading champ from contest 11

[SantaMufasa]

Librarian wants to ban 5-time reading champ from contest. What are your reactions to this?

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel.

 

[kwbMitel]

@SamBones - Yup that adds up for me.
Picture of local pro after recent game Sam Gagner Broken Jaw

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[SamBones]

And is anyone surprised? Not only is it played on ice at high speed, but everyone is carrying a stick.

I remember when I was young, someone showed me a hockey helmet. I asked about some bumps it had on the back. "Oh, that's so when you break your neck, your head will sit on the ice straight up". "When?!?"

 

[SantaMufasa]

Picture of local pro after recent game Sam Gagner Broken Jaw

Now there's a sport that needs some sort of a "Mercy Rule" !

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel.

 

[Andrzejek]

kwbMitel,

Do you also have any 'Non-Violent Hockey Leagues'?

Have fun.

---- Andy

 

[kwbMitel]

@ Andrzjek

I know your question was Tongue in Cheek but actually:

http://www.hockeyedmonton.ca/index.php?src=gendocs&ref=Association&category=RecHockey

The Hockey Edmonton Recreational Hockey was formed due to a need for an alternative to mainstream hockey. Why is there such a need?

•Players were reaching an age where they were developing social, academic and athletic interests outside of hockey
•The schedule of mainstream hockey season made it difficult for players to schedule other activities, such as part time jobs etc..
•Players were reaching a point in their social development where they [highlight #FCE94F]didn't necessarily want to play where their skill dictated[/highlight], but still [highlight #FCE94F]wanted to play with friends[/highlight].
•[highlight #FCE94F]Not all players are interested in a physical style of hockey[/highlight]
•Cost was becoming prohibitive


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[SantaMufasa]

Actually, Andrzejek, None our local (Metro Salt Lake City) adult, non-pro hockey leagues is a contact league.

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)
“People may forget what you say, but they will never forget how you made them feel.

 

[SamBones]

But then I have some friends that play Rugby who feel that Hockey is just a bunch of figure skaters trying to make a game out of it.

A common bumper sticker amongst them is, "Give Blood, Play Rugby".

 

[CajunCenturion]

==> need for an alternative to mainstream hockey. Why is there such a need?
In order words, there is a need for an alternative to competitive hockey. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But then don't go and sell it as a competitive league. Don't call it a competition and then manipulate the rules so that the players are not allowed to compete. That's the real issue to me. It's people who want to call things competitions, but then co-opt the competition to mean something else. Just be honest and call it what it is. Call it a "fun league" or what have you, but be honest that participation in such a league is NOT about competition. It's about having fun; it's about participating. Just don't sell it as a competition when it's not a competition.


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[JCreamerII]

Dave,

You didn't per chance goto FVHS? Was friends with a fellow how's family moved back to Utah from So Cal. A couple of our friends moved the family back in 1969, the two older boys stayed out in So. Cal. Just checking on the off chance.

Jim C.

 

[kwbMitel]

@CajunCenturion - could you please cite the source for this comment?

"But then don't go and sell it as a competitive league"

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[CajunCenturion]

Yes, I will always stand behind and support what I say. because to do otherwise is not who I am.

The librarian called this a competition and awarded a prize to the winner, then changed the rules because she didn't like who was winning. She used the rewards of winning as a means to attract participants, but then denies the reward to the most deserving. That to me is selling the event as a competition, but not treating it as a competition.

With respect to the California youth league, the fact that so many parents are up in arms, the fact that the imposition of this mercy rule is so controversial and has attracted such wide-spread attention clearly shows that the association leadership has instituted a policy that was completely contrary to the expectations of the membership. Mercy rules don't exist outside of competitive environments.

Now if you disagree, that's fine. You can reach a different conclusions from the same set of facts. That's fine too. But if you're going to levy accusations that I, or someone else, are placing degrading labels on other people, or that my, or anyone else's reasoning is flawed, then stand up, point out the actual flaws and be specific.

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[kwbMitel]

Ok, I don't know if you are intentionally baiting me Cajuncenturion but when you use a quote from one of my posts I believe it is justified to assume that your response is related to that post. If you want you be clear next time, don't quote my text and make sure everyone understands what you are refering to. The quote you took was completely out of context with the original posted material and it was clear that it was such. My post was in response to a link provided by Sambones about a football league in California. If you want to take things out of context, feel free, but don't get defensive when I don't understand you.

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[guitarzan]

==> need for an alternative to mainstream hockey. Why is there such a need?
In order words, there is a need for an alternative to competitive hockey. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But then don't go and sell [highlight #FCE94F]it[/highlight] as a competitive league.

This is the part that confused me when I read it (and I assume kbwMitel did also). I thought you meant the "it" to be the hockey league, which caused me to re-read the quote kwbMitel posted.. and sure enough, the hockey league is not selling itself as a competitive league, at least nowhere that I can find.

kbwMitel happened to ask the same question that I had. Your reply (well, some of it) makes me think you were referring to the reading contest and the California youth league, and NOT the hockey league. Okay, you cleared that one up. Gotcha. (Or if I am wrong, correct me and also show me where the hockey league IS promoting itself as a competitive league)

But sa to the rest of your last post... Are you really that childish? Holy smokes. He asked a simple question with no animosity, no attitude, just asked you a question on a post that was not clear.

 

[CajunCenturion]

You are correct guitarzan. I was not referring specially to the hockey league and it was not my intent to imply that the hockey was selling itself as such. Bad pronoun use on my part.

==> He asked a simple question with no animosity, no attitude, just asked you a question on a post that was not clear
A question which I answered; however, it you read back through the rest of the thread, the rest of the post may make more sense.

==> But sa to the rest of your last post
Please see my post of 4 Sep 13 17:07. kwbMitel has yet to provide a definitive answer for that. kwbMitel has yet to provide his logic behind what he's hearing from everyone else in his post 4 Sep 13 16:08. And then please see his post of 17 Sep 13 13:11.

It is perfectly reasonable for kwbMitel to ask for me, or anyone else, to cite sources and/or explain their logic. However, I find it equally reasonable for kwbMitel to do the same. I'm still hoping, but not expecting, him to actually answer those question. It is very difficult to have an intelligent debate when all parties are not willing to stand behind their claims, do you not agree?

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