I've been fighting issues on a brand new system that I upgraded out of the box to 8.1.65 (basic) here in the shop. I've spent a week setting up all including buttons, etc, on 9508 phones. The system has also been losing programming changes and changing DSS key programming from AUTODIAL-ICM PAGE to AUTODIAL-ICM (Ring) intermittently. Web Admin is flaky in this regard and so is Manager. I've setup plenty of IPO's with both GUI's and never had this much trouble. I will try going to 8.1.57 and post results.