IPO 500V2 Chassis going away soon?

[jayjr1105]

So our Avaya salesman informed me that sometime in the near to distant future, Avaya phone system hardware is going end of life in favor of Server/Software/Hosted products.

This is purely product of the rumor mill at this point but he claims he heard it from inside the channel. What do you guys think?

 

[MikeTheSpike]

It is a bit odd that Avaya is still supplying the 500 V2 in the new round of Avaya iConnect bundled promos.

I must say that I have a very hard time squeezing a 500V2 down to the size of a USB stick with an ISO file burned to it, so it makes sense going for the software route.

With a bootable and installable ISO image you have a lot more freedom in how and where you install the IPO.

 

[jayjr1105]

We are very much on the SMB side of things and would not be in favor of the 500V2 going away. Hopefully they keep it around.

 

[sizbut]

in the near to distant future" - well if it 'distant future' then its pretty well a certainty. Avaya have been pushing the software only idea for years, and then continually add the 'but only on this particular HP/Dell server platform' caveat. And then always with some gateway for those pesky non-SIP telephone line things. IP500 still has some life in it though a replacement/refresh would be nice.

Stuck in a never ending cycle of file copying.

 

[hairlessupportmonkey]

It's been on the cards for a while. Avaya are not a hardware vendor. They write software. Software = $$$, hardware = PITA

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[crumthwacket]

I think they need to keep the hardware side of the company alive until their software is as reliable as their hardware is. Their name recognition (Avaya) isn't nearly as strong as it was in the AT&T/Lucent Technologies era, and removing it from the daily view of users will spell the end of whatever is left of Avaya.

 

[pmcook]

They want to be a Cisco and will get their butts handed to them on a plate. SMB is what Avaya is best suited for in the non-server arena. Going only server will ruin them. NEC and Panasonic will benefit greatly.

 

[mkoker]

Looked at an IP500v2 on a few roadmaps with other things today. I doubt it is going away anytime soon.

 

[derfloh]

I think it will get a refresh. More power, faster NICs... There is really a need for a chassis that can hold hardware ports.

 

[scudworth]

I've heard that there is a 500v3 in the works somewhere in the Avaya developer basement with Embedded Voicemail Pro.... Don't ask where I heard that....

 

[pmcook]

It would be a fairly easy mod. Just double up ont he chassis and slip in a PC system board and a disk drive.

 

[derfloh]

The chassis has enough free space to integrate a more powerful cpu. I would like to see the chassis either one ore two rack units but not something in between.

 

[jayjr1105]

I never felt the system to be under-powered. Manager is snappy and reboot times are typically less than 2 min. On the other hand I haven't installed the system for more than 75 users. The embedded VM pro sounds interesting. Just as long as they use solid state storage and no spindle drives.

 

[TheIPOTek]

Having dealt with so many UC Module issues, I don't have a ton of faith in an embedded VM Pro.. We'll see though.

 

[jayjr1105]

It had a spindle drive and a proprietary Linux OS though didn't it? (never used it btw)

 

[KCFLHRC]

Wouldn't surprise me. Everything is headed IP. As well as SIP Trunking. You cant even buy a new PRI from AT&T in my area. SIP is the way we are headed unfortunately. Get used to it.

 

[intrigrant]

Nothing wrong with SIP, overhere all fixed ISDN connections are in the process to be replaced with SIP to ISDN boxes and they are as reliable as fixed SIP.
In respect to the IP500v2 chassis I would not be surprised if there is a new box coming but most customers want a box and not a server so it will be something in between as a compromis.
All in one and only licenses to buy to get the most out of it, that is how the money is earned nowadays, RTU licensing most likely on a yearly base like MS Office 365.
There is one thing I would really like to have : a decent VPN solution in it to connect to any high level VPN concentator and not only the Avaya box. Just another license maybe?

 

[amriddle01]

Well that already exists, but the system generated VPN sucks, think the processor struggles doing that on top of being an IPO

 

[intrigrant]

That is why I wrote "a decent VPN solution" what we have now isn't really reliable.