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IP or Digital Phones? 1

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phonesaz

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I have a customer who is going to buy an IP Office to replace a 15 year old Magix for about 70 users. He currently has one site and will probably always have one site. There are a few managing partners who could possibly use connectivity from a home office - no more than 3 or 4. Out of habit I guess I mainly use digital phones. The IT guy here - who I have known forever and would consider a friend - really seems to want a reason to use IP phones. Generally, with a new system in one site, which is better? Is there any advantage to going IP for everyone vs. a mix of digital and IP? Just looking for opinions...
 
I think IP can be cheaper when there is already a good network.
When you already need 3 or 4 home workers then you need IP phones anyway.
A DS30 will cost around $3000 each and you still need the phones.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!
 
The answer to your question is that neither solution is any better or worse than the other

The important part of tlpeter's statement was

When you have a good network (& a network maintainer that understands the requirements of VoIP)

As we all now a poorly configured network will cause nothing but headaches.

I do not believe it is aver a straight choice of IP Vs TDM & would always advise "use the right tool for the right job"

really seems to want a reason to use IP Phones
this strikes me as using IP for the sake of IP rather than because their is a need, that just about sums up all of the problem sites I have ever seen.



I do not Have A.D.D. im just easily, Hey look a Squirrel!
 
Go ip get your network right and dhcp etc working it's a lot more flexible and easy to manage .

[cheers]
 
I think I agree with all the above.. this guy loves the idea of IP. I showed him an S8300 with 9650 phones (because it was close to him and where I was working at the time) at he is smitten with everything plugging into the switch. I also think the speakerphones on the 96xx phones are amazing - I am using a 1416 on my IP Office today to see how it compares. That alone would be the deciding factor if they are not comparable.

Which leads me to another ?? - Now that I am selling and installing more IP Offices, it seems that the choice of phones is overwhelming. I like the look of the 14/16/96xx family way better than the 54/56xx style, but am curious as to what you guys who have done way more of these than I have are seeing most of? I also think the 96xx just have something elegant about them as compared to the 16xx for the IP phones but maybe that's just me.
 
I find that the customer thinks that the 54xx/56xx series look cheap and bulky,and then they think same the same thing about the 14/16xx, the cheap part that is. I did have a few dtmf and speaker phone issue with the 14/16xx series in the early releases of 6.0, but it seems the later releases cured most of thos issues. I have not really had any complaints over the 95/96xx series! They seem to truely love them until they have to pay for them! It truely boils down to what kind of budget they have!
 
The 96xx phones work very weel, and the speakerphone sound great, the best.
The speaker phone on 16xx is not as good as the speaker phone on 54xx/46xx series. But the 54xx/46xx phones look blah, unless You find one in ivory, or red, but those are very rare, and hard to find.
If they are going to keep some of their Magix 44xx phones, do not fill the DS30, as these phones take a lot more juice than the 64xx phones.
 
See it this way:

The 54/56 will disappear.
The 14/16 range is the cheap range.
The 95/96 range is the good range.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!
 
Have a love hate thing for the 14 and 16XX.

They are good if you are replacing a Keyphone system because people need the buttons and are used to them. But I hate paper labels :) The 96/95 I personally think are to not suited to a SME all hands answering the phones way to hard to use.

Just me

[cheers]
 
Paper labels or not - ANYTHING is better than a mix of MLX, ETR, and TDL!! I agree with you that people are very attached to their buttons and the 14xx helps a little. Why can't I find any info on 95xx? I just see 96xx.
 
I just got the brochures and pricing from my distributor - sometimes I feel really behind....thanks for the info.
 
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