Internet Shorthand 6

[Dimandja]

Do you have any interesting examples of creative ways people use their keyboards to express themselves online?

Also, many popular expressions have been reduced to an alphabet soup that I find hard to digest. For instance "AFAIK" --- my stomach still turned even when I found out what it stands for. And, what in the world is "IMO"? :s

 

[ESquared]

In technical manuals and online one not infrequently sees the words foo and bar. They are most often used as variable namess or random placeholders.

Well, use of foo and bar—foobar—is a secret joke on the word fubar, which is actually an acronym: Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition. I think it started in the military. Be aware that not everyone knows this connection and you should not automatically assume that a person using foo and bar knows the real meaning behind them.

A similar word is snafu, which comes from Situation Normal: All Fouled Up.

I thought of combining them into snafubar, but evidently I was not the first!

E²


P.S. One should of course replace foul with something more profane in order to achieve genuinity.

 

[AnotherHiggins]

You know you're going to get flack for using "[blue]genuinity[/blue]," right?

 

[ESquared]

Going to!?!? I already did!!!

Thanks for the correction!

P.S. Flak is standard, flack is nonstandard... as in flak jacket.

 

[Dimandja]

Genuinity flak resistant site:

http://shay.ecn.purdue.edu/~kennell/genuinity/

 

[CajunCenturion]

Although anotherhiggins statement "You know you're going to get flack " is using non-standard variant of flak, it is appropriate to point out that:

anotherhiggins flacked ESquared for using the very rare word "genuinity."

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[ESquared]

I've never before heard fla[c]k used as a verb. The standard usage is, to give flak and to receive flak.

ESquared gave CajunCenturion flak for using flack as a verb.

I concede that genuineness is the standard word and I should have used it. Somehow, genuinity 'felt' better at the time.

 

[CajunCenturion]

I suggest then that you look up flack in the dictionary. You might find it interesting that the verb to flack has absolutely nothing to do with the noun flak.

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[CajunCenturion]

I suppose that given we're deep into election politics, maybe I should recant on the association between the verb flack and the noun flak.

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[ESquared]

I did check two online dictionaries before posting about the noun/verb usage of flack. But I finally see it as a verb in a third dictionary:

[ul]flack[sup]1[/sup] Listen: [fl

k] Informal
n.

[ul]A press agent; a publicist.

[/ul]
v. flacked, flack·ing, flacks
v. intr.

[ul]To act as a press agent: flacking for a movie studio.

[/ul]
v. tr.

[ul]To act as a press agent for; promote: authors who tour the country flacking their books.[/ul]

[/ul]

 

[AnotherHiggins]

Technically I wasn't giving E[sup]2[/sup] flak or flack, as I had found the site previously pointed to by Dimandja before I posted. I recognize that genuinity is a word, even if it is usually omitted in favor of genuineness, is not included in any (free) online dictionary that I can find, and is only being accepted as a word because it was listed in a 1989 O.E.D.

I cannot say if it is still listed as a word and am unprepared to spend US$30/month to find out (the subscription rate to O.E.D. online - or a bargain at $65/year!) But if any of you forgot to get me a birthday gift, I'd love a real O.E.D. of my own!

Anyway, thanks to E[sup]2[/sup] for pointing out the proper spelling for flak in this case. That'll teach me to try to be a smarta*s.

John

 

[ESquared]

Ooh! Ooh! I've been meaning to get you a birthday gift, I just couldn't think what to get. Now I know!

I hope we're all having fun here and not feeling prickly about having every jot and tittle examined.

 

[Madhi]

ASAP - As Soon As Possible
IWGBY - I will Get Back You

Madhivanan

 

[AnotherHiggins]

Oh, if we are going to get back on topic...

Some of my favorite initialisms (thanks, madelca100) are:
[ul][li]TLA - Three Letter Acronym (Of which there are a ridiculous amount)[/li]
[li]ETLA - Extended Three Letter Acronym[/li]
[li]VLTLA - Very Long Three Letter Acronym[/li][/ul]

 

[ESquared]

The distinction between acronyms and initialisms is just about dead. The English language has changed and now acronym can properly refer to either.

For example, take a look at merriam webster's definition of acronym. It gives both NATO and FBI as examples.

 

[gbaughma]

I had mistakenly started a similar thread in another forum, but I'll re-post a few.

Some have been made popular by the Dilbert comics... thank Scott Adams:

PHB - Pointy-Haired Boss
PFY - Pimply-Faced Youth (usually referring to a young tech or intern)

Chat rooms have their own set of both acronyms and emoticons; in fact I did my college thesis in Interpersonal Communications on the topic of relationships that are built on line without the non-verbal cues, and how emoticons and acronyms make up for non-verbal interactions. Some include:

BBS - Be Back Soon (this is a relatively new one, BBS used to mean Bulletin Board System in the online community)
ROFL - Rolling on floor laughing
ROFLMAO - Rolling on floor laughing my a** off
PMSL - P*ssed MySelf Laughing
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion

... The other interesting thing happening (and should probably be a new thread) are the new colloquialisms that the information age has provided, reflecting current pop-culture and trends. Stuff like:

"Just google for .... " (google now being used as a verb for using the google search engine to find information)

"Text me..." (referring to text messaging on cell phones)



Just my $.02

"In order to start solving a problem, one must first identify it's owner." --Me
--Greg

 

[Dimandja]

google now being used as a verb for using the google search engine to find information

Although I prefer to use Google to search, when I tell someone to "google", I don't really care what engine they use. "To google", in my mind means "to use an/any internet search engine".

 

[CajunCenturion]

An interesting observation. In such a short period of time, Google has gone from a proper noun to a generic verb.

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[sleipnir214]

I've long thought that was good marketing on the part of Google. They picked a name for their company that[ul][li]was not an English word[/li][li]could easily have been an English word[/li][li]is easy to spell[/li][li]and rolls off the tongue[/li][/ul]

Of course, building a better mousetrap with their search engine didn't hurt, either.


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[Stella740pl]

sleipnir214,

I wouldn't say that "Google" was not an English word. It's was a play on, or an alternative spelling of a word "googol", meanining the number 10 to the power 100 (numeral 1 followed by 100 zeros). It was "coined at the age of nine by Milton Sirotta, nephew of Edward Kasner (1878-1955), American mathematician".

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/g/g0195800.html

http://www.onelook.com/?loc=pub&w=googol

 

[sleipnir214]

According to the Google corporate history page, "google" was indeed a take on "googol".

But I doubt "googol" or "googolplex" was in the common parlance of anyone but mathematicians and computer geeks.


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