Installing T1 link for Shortel 1

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I am trying to install a t1 card 720C. I did get some documentation on programing the card from shoretel.
I just have a few questions if anyone can help. I have an open net shelf in net 2 that I would like to populate.
I know it is slot specific and that is my problem. I have slots 6-14 open on Net 2 shelf 1. I believe the tie would be 80 something.
Do I need to have the enet card installed also. Can I put both in the same shelf.
I have worked with t1 cards already installed just never set one up on my own.
I did get some information from previous posts also. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[phonz1]

Sorry, that quote was from my post..... When you progam and new DCH, cable it out and use enl dch x fdl. You wont have to dis and enl the msdl for that

 

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Ok, good. On the dch messages questionI did a dis msgi 13(dch#)in ld 96 to get rid of the dch messages.
I was reading some info and you can do qsig and ni-2 with an option 11 to shore gear - I would think it would be the same.

There just wasn't any new info on starting at cequ step by step. Has all the rest. There was another doc that looked like that they did it pri and used esf no b8s fdl 00. Wouldn't it just be nice to see a print to make sure?


Thanks again.

 

[phonz1]

okay.... NI2 is a protocol from the Telco, and it's way different than PRI2 or E-1 as stated above, PRI2 would only be used in foreign countries! Also, NI-2 is B8ZS/ESF, usually!

 

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The only other difference I saw on the doc is they use tmdi and I am going to use msdl -
They use ISGF - I have also seen ISIG - I have packages
QSIG (263, 305, 316) or NI-2 (291, 385).
Should I use one or the other?

 

[phonz1]

Ok, TMDI is ONLY for an Opt 11, so you either have to use the MSDL for the DCH or a DCH daughterboard, use the MSDL!

ISGF is programming for QSIG, is that what you are implementing or just a T-1 tie to the Shortel??

Can't Shortel tell you what you need in this setup??

 

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Did a little more diggin and found in some docs that with tmdi - it said isgf and with the msdl they had it to isig.
The other thing that I see is on dgtp they put pri on tmdi and pri2 on msdl. Same way when they program the channels. Is that setting specific to the type of t1 card you use? I am using a 720c.

 

[phonz1]

in the US, use PRI and that is NOT specific to the type of card. a 720 will do the same as the dual pri card....

 

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So pri2 means dual pri card?
Well shoretel will be here monday with the demo system for 30 days. I will post the results.

Thanks for the correspondence. It's been awesome.

 

[Phnman]

NO PRI2 does not mean dual pri card. A dual DTI card in the Nortel world is a circuit card that provide's 2 PRI's using one network card slot. You need to find out what type of card or interface is in the Shortel in order to program your end . also unless
using a CSU, you'll need a T-1 Crossover cable to make the connection between the two systems. Perhaps the Shortel Rep
can assist you on setup.

 

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I have a clock in core0 and core1 each is already set up for dch0 and backup dch0.
Where does the clock come from for this t1. Does it pull from the system already by a setting - external or does it have to come from the shoretel side - anyone?

 

[phonz1]

it will use your existing clocks

 

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Everything went well. The Enet card went into my slot 86 the 720c card went into 13-14.
I had one cable to connect enet and t1. I had another to my msdl card 15 port 1 on net 0. Another cable went from the t1 card which I needed a db15 to rj45 to connect to the shoretel t1 box.
I used loop 86 route 53 dch 13 - qsig, pri. The above info that people passed on was great. I will post my final configs.
The only hiccup I had was that I didn't understand what the pni number was. I copied off the sheets I had. The pni is equal to your customer number. Mine is 0. Once that was changed they linked.
Then I created steering codes. You first go to 86 and creat your rli and then 87 to create the dsc. You can print out your rlb in 86 to see what is available.
The other thing I had to remember was we are multi-tennant so I had to allow acces to my new route 53. This is done in ld 93 allow access all.

Here are the configs:
This configuration is for an 81C with a Enet card and a 720C connecting MSDL with Qsig
Loop 86 with DCH 13 on Route 53

Print out of Common Equipment in LD22 for loop 86
PRT
CEQU

DLOP NUM DCH FRM TMDI LCMT YALM TRSH
TRK 000 24 D4 NO AMI DG2 00
001 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
002 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
016 24 ESF NO B8S DG2 00
018 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
035 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
PRI 003 24 ESF NO B8S DG2 00
017 24 ESF NO B8S DG2 00
032 24 ESF NO B8S DG2 00
034 24 ESF NO B8S DG2 00
044 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
045 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00
086 24 ESF NO B8S FDL 00

Printe out in LD 22
REQ prt
TYPE adan DCH 13

ADAN DCH 13
CTYP MSDL
GRP 0
DNUM 15
PORT 1
DES SHORETEL
USR PRI
DCHL 86
OTBF 32
PARM RS422 DTE
DRAT 64KC
CLOK EXT
IFC ISIG
ISDN_MCNT 300
CLID OPT0
CO_TYPE STD
SIDE NET
CNEG 1
RLS ID **
RCAP COLP
MBGA NO
OVLR NO
OVLS NO
T310 120
T200 3
T203 10
N200 3
N201 260
K 7

Print out in ld 21


REQ: PRT
TYPE: RDB
CUST 0
ROUT 54

TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 54
DES STEL
TKTP TIE
NPID_TBL_NUM 0
ESN NO
CNVT NO
SAT NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
NODE
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
MODE PRA
IFC ISIG
SBN NO
PNI 00001
NCNA NO
NCRD NO
CHTY BCH
CTYP UKWN
INAC NO
ISAR NO
CPFXS YES
DAPC NO
INTC NO
DSEL VOD
PTYP DTT
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
DCDR NO
ICOG IAO
SRCH LIN
TRMB YES
STEP
ACOD 854
TCPP NO
TARG 01 02
CLEN 1
BILN NO
OABS
INST
ANTK
SIGO STD
ICIS YES
TIMR ICF 512
OGF 512
EOD 13952
NRD 10112
DDL 70
ODT 4096
RGV 640
GRD 896
SFB 3
NBS 2048
NBL 4096
IENB 5
TFD 0
VSS 0
VGD 6
DRNG NO
CDR NO
VRAT NO
MUS YES
MRT 3
RACD NO
OHQ NO
OHQT 00
CBQ NO
AUTH NO
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
PLEV 2
ALRM NO
ART 0
SGRP 0
ARDN NO
AACR NO

Print out Trunk Members LD 14

DES STEL
TN 086 01
TYPE TIE
CDEN SD
CUST 0
TRK PRI
PDCA 1
PCML MU
NCOS 4
RTMB 54 1
B-CHANNEL SIGNALING
TGAR 2
AST NO
IAPG 0
CLS UNR DTN WTA LPR APN THFD HKD
P10 VNL
TKID
AACR NO

Print out of DCH 13 LD 96

>ld 96

.stat dch
DCH 000 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO BKUP 001 DES : DCH0
DCH 001 : OPER EST STBY AUTO PRIM 000 DES : DCH0
DCH 013 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO DES : SHORETEL
DCH 099 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO DES : VTRK


Print out of Loop 86 LD 60

>ld 60
.stat 86

PRI* TRK LOOP 86 - ENBL
FFMT/LCMT/YALMT: ESF/B8Z/FDL
SERVICE RESTORE: YES
YEL ALM PROCESS: YES
ALARM STATUS : NO ALARM
CH 01 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 02 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 03 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 04 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 05 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 06 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 07 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 08 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 09 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 10 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 11 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 12 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 13 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 14 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 15 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 16 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 17 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 18 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 19 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 20 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 21 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 22 - BUSY TIE VOD *
CH 23 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 24 - DCH 13
.

Below is a great step by step to follow - pieced with one I found on the forum and modified:

1. Add PRI to Common Equipment

LD 17
REQ CHG
TYPE CEQU
:
DLOP (Enter Loop #)
MODE PRI
LCMT B8S
YALM FDL
TRSH 00

All other prompts default to the end

2. Build New D Channel

LD 17
REQ CHG
TYPE ADAN
ADAN NEW DCH x
CTYP MSDL
GROUP (NET GROUP MSDL RESIDES)
DNUM (# THE SLOT OF YOUR MSDL - OR IT MAY BE NUMBERED)
PORT (THE PORT YOU INTEND TO USE ON MSDL)
DES QSIG2SHORETEL
USR PRI
DCHL ( LOOP Number )
OTBF 32
:
:
IFC ISIG
:
:
SIDE NET (USR = Slave NET = Master)
:
RCAP COLP

:

All other prompts default to the end


3. Build Route Data Block

LD 16
REQ NEW
TYPE RDB
CUST 0
ROUT (new route number)
DES QSIG2SHORETEL
TKTP TIE
:
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
MODE PRA
IFC ISG
PNI 00001 (this pertains to customer # if you have cust 0 then PNI is 00001)
CHTY BCH
DSEL VOD
PTTYP DTT
:
:
ICOG IAO
:
SRCH LIN
TRMB YES
STEP
ACOD ( Route Number + 1500 )
TARG ( Leave blank unless specifically needed )
:
MUS (Enter yes if you plan to use music route)
MRT (Music route #)
All other prompts default to the end


4. Build Trunk Members

LD 14
REQ NEW 30
TYPE TIE
CDEN SD
TRK PRI
PCDA 1 (PAD category table number)
PCML MU A (A law - must not be defaulted!)
NCOS 0 (if you want long distance set accordingly)
RTMB x x (Route No, Trunk member ie. 100 1)
B-CHANNNEL SIGNALING
TGAR (Enter if needed)
AST
IAPG 0
CLS UNR DTN WTA LPR APN P10 VNL
TKID

5. Enable your DCH in LD96

ENL DCH 13

Do a stat of your DCH
>ld 96
DCH000
.stat dch
DCH 000 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO BKUP 001 DES : DCH0
DCH 001 : OPER EST STBY AUTO PRIM 000 DES : DCH0
DCH 013 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO DES : SHORETEL
DCH 099 : OPER EST ACTV AUTO DES : VTRK

It may not go online till you enable your loop.

6. Enable your Loop (mine was 86)

>ld 60
DTI000
.stat 86

PRI* TRK LOOP 86 - ENBL
FFMT/LCMT/YALMT: ESF/B8Z/FDL
SERVICE RESTORE: YES
YEL ALM PROCESS: YES
ALARM STATUS : NO ALARM
CH 01 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 02 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 03 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 04 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 05 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 06 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 07 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 08 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 09 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 10 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 11 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 12 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 13 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 14 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 15 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 16 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 17 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 18 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 19 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 20 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 21 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 22 - IDLE TIE VOD *
CH 23 - IDLE TIE VOD * CH 24 - DCH 13.

7. Create Steering Code
Once you take you extensions out of the Nortel System you need to creat a Steering code to point the number to your
Route (mine was 54)

You first need to do a print of your RLI's to see what is open.

REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT RLB
RLI (Enter to print all)

Choose an open one. They should print in order and choose a number after the last.
This is what mine looked like:

RLI 30
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 99
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
VNS NO
SCNV NO
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 0
DMI 0
ISDM 0
FCI 0
FSNI 0
SBOC NRR
IDBB DBD
IOHQ NO
OHQ NO
CBQ NO

So I chose 31

Create RLI in 86

REQ new
CUST 0
FEAT RLB
RLI 31
ENTR 0
LTER
ROUT (This is the tie route - mine was 54)
Enter through rest

8. Creat your DSC in LD 87 ( This step you will have to repeat for each extension you want to point)

REQ NEW
CUST 0
FEAT CDP
TYPE DSC
DSC (Extension #)
DSC LSC
Enter through rest


9. If you have multi-tenant you will have to allow access to route
LD 93
REQ CHG
TYPE RACC
CUST 0
ROUT 53
AACC ALOW
ALOW ALL
Enter through rest

If you miss this step you will get fast busy when you dial across from Nortel side.

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Hope this helps - Read the responses above and then follow this setup and you should be fine. Your red lights go out once the t1 is connected to the shoregear equipment. At this point I am unable to pass clid info back and forth - I don't know that this will be possible since it thinks the calls between the two are outside calls.
You can also try to contact me throught the site if you have questions.

 

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One last follow up - you can use NI2 - it appears to work but does not - drops calls after 1 ring. Confirmed with another person who had also created a link between the nortel 81 and shoretel. Not sure if that means all nortel.
Also when the shoretel people clicked an clid check box in their config the system dropped calls after one ring.