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Frameset scaling problem 2

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jamiebettles

jamiebettles

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Dec 15, 2005
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Hi there,

I've posted this message in the GoLive forum already but haven't had any responses so I was hoping somebody here could help me out...
I have a problem with this flash website im doing:


Its a basic 2 frame frameset made in golive, the top frame holds the navigation movie and the bottom holds the other pages which are flash movies of the same size. The problem is; the top frame is fixed but the bottom one floats around when you make the browser window bigger and smaller. I want both frames to be stuck to each other, so that it looks miles better and you won't ever have to scroll on either of the frames.
It is possible to do it easily with a table within a normal html page, but the advantage of a frameset is that wherever the user navigates on the site, the menu bar in the top frame stays the same...ie. the whole page including the menu at the top doesn't re-load every time the site is refreshed or a link is clicked.
Can anybody tell me how to fix the whole frameset in place, in the middle of the browser, like you can with a table? I'm guessing theres a way using the html script for the frameset, but I don't know what the script would be!

thanks a lot to anyone who can suggest a solution,

jamie
 
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That is what I was afraid of but I am open to better methods of working rather than being stuck with one method.
I like some of the features of CSS but feel it is just another tool in the box, to be used when appropriate, not a means to do every job going.
What would the experts say if they knew I was using a CSS based rounded box with a table in the middle but hey it works and looks good - job completed.


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As an update on that method, here's the browsers that it works on for windows (I haven't got a Mac to test it on so will have to rely on someone else's input for this!):

Internet Explorer
IE7 Beta's 1 & 2, IE6*, IE5*, IE4*

Firefox
1.5, 1.0.7

Netscape
8.1, 7*, 6*

Opera
8.51, 7*, 6*, 5*

That's pretty extensive support so far!


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ca8msm,
You can break it just by targeting a link in the content area.

I was unable to download the IE7 beta. I wonder if you would mind clarifying some points.
1. Does a comment befor the doctype still throw it into quirks mode.
2. Is * HTML hack ignored or used. (with valid doctype)
3. Does position:fixed work

Thanks,

Clive
 
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Clive,

What do you mean by it breaks? Can you give an example?

As for IE7:

1) It says here that it shouldn't throw it into quirks mode

2) I haven't seen any documentation on this but it appears to in the beta's.

3) Again, I'm struggling to find any official documentation on it, but it says here that it will be supported from the second beta onwards (and I remember reading an MSDN blog that said whilst not all fixes will go into the beta, it was definately something they were looking to implement for the final release)

Also, did you see my last post in thread253-1185117 as this allows you to download IE7 and run it as a standalone browser (I'm running it now and without any side-effects). You simply have to have a batch file running in the background that clears up any registry entries once it's finished.


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Thanks for the IE7 info. My problem is that Microsoft does not seem to think that I have a valid copy of windows even though they update it automatically.

Personally, I don't want to do free QA for a for-profit rich company with thousands of developers but I was a bit curious about the points that I mentioned.

As for an example of breaking the frameset look-alike put:
<a name="top"></a> at the beginning of the content section, then put <a href="#top">top</a> towards the bottom. Click on the link and the whole thing breaks.

That was just the first problem I found after just a minute of experimentation.

Can we make this a kinder genteler forum just by being less oppositional? Maybe we all have good points to offer.


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OK, I see the error you were talking about Clive. It only appears to happen in IE though (seems to work fine if you try in FF, Opera or Netscape) so I'm sure there will be a simple adjustment to the CSS to compensate for this. I'll have a look into it...


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Ah yes, it was a very simple fix. IE was simply having problems with the "height: 100px;" attribute of the navigation section. I can post an updated example if you wish as I have a new version tested in all the browsers I listed above and it works fine?


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OK, I've put it into an FAQ anyway so that it can be updated if necessary:

faq215-6195


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Wow, I never knew that Clive was a woman named Jill with a haircut like Rick James.......

Thanks for the link Chris, now it all makes so much sense.

-kaht

[small] <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <B> <P> <.</B>[/small]
[banghead] [small](He's back)[/small]
 
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Interesting quote from Jill on page 3 in that thread:
That's because nobody in the competitive industries would be silly enough to use frames as they're not worth the trouble.
Click to expand...

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