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dell dimesion not working

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chiefofstaff

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Oct 10, 2009
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I bought a dell dimension 8200 from a garage sale
I think they were made 4 years ago
I pluged it in and it does not work
I opend the inside and pluged it in and the fans are not working
The computer does not go on

As soon as I plug it in and turn it on the monitor senses that the computer is there
but the monitor does not go on


I am spending some time here to figure out the problem

How do the professionals repair computers
Is there a way to test each part in the computer
Do i have to remove each part and replace it with a working part to know where the broken part is
 
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Hi Folks
Thanks very much for your help.

I know that the psu and the psu fan is FAN 2

The heat sink with fixed fan
Is this FAN 3




the $4.95
can I remove that because it doesnt look like it belong there
What can I do with the loose wires
Do I just wrap it with electrical tape.
Where did those wires come from

kjv1611
As for the camera someone told me to buy a web cam for 20 dollars
Maybe I might do that until I have the money to buy something really nice.
I appreciate those links
Thanks
 
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By looking here:
and here:

to verify, your board is a socket 478 Pentium 4 board.

So, for your HSF options, I'd use a search like this one on NewEgg.

Yes, Fan 3 in that picture is your Heatsink Fan.

And I'd think you would be fine removing the 4.95 fan. Usually those Dells didn't need an extra fan, unless you added a bunch of hardware. And even then, if it's not positioned correctly, it could be doing more harm than good.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me
 
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And if you do buy a HSF combo, then I'd suggest you keep the price as low as possible, b/c you don't want to dump a bunch of money into an old computer, unless you've just got it to burn and don't care.

So, you could use this search instead to limit the range to $15 or less.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me
 
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This is the Artic Silver 5 Compound - not necessarily the absolute best on the market from tests I've seen online, but it's far better than most that comes with heatsinks you purchase. And it only takes a VERY small amount for each CPU.

Artic Silver 5 is what I've been using for a pretty good while. Although, I have used others, and have used thermal pads, never with any real problems. I've just seen lower temps specifically using Artic Silver 5 on a same system as with a thermal pad or the included grease/compound.

I've not used the ones that are supposedly better. They cost more and are harder to find.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me
 
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Hi Folks
Thanks for your help
I really appreciate it.
You are right about not spending too much money for this computer.
I should remove the power supply box and have it tested at a shop near my house.
The only thing is he charges 45 dollars for a power supply box.
I guess he has store expenses to pay.
I rememeber a few month back I had seen so many computers in the garbage
But I couldnt take it at that time.

kjv1611

This is something completely new to me
I never seen somethinmg like that before
It looks like you inject something with it


I read the description and still didnt make sense
Maybe I am very tired.
Anyway guys thanks for you help again
Sooner or later well get that old computer back to life.
 
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Yeah, you don't inject anything. It's like that, so that you can put a small enough amount of the compound on the CPU before attaching the heatsink. [wink]

You could also find a cheap power supply on NewEgg for less than the $45. But then again, if you did end up buying from the shop who's helped you so far, you'll be helping him a little in return.

Here are some PSUs you could get for less:

You could resort by price if you wanted to get the cheapest - you could actually get one possibly as cheap as $10 to $20. I'd just be careful about some of them, b/c some are more headache than it's worth saving $10 to $20 off of others.

And here is one particular one right now that you can get at about the same price, that is an extremely good PSU... same price, after shipping that is,... but will depend upon your location of course.

There's also one by FDP Group that was more shipping, same price, to get to my house, but it could be cheaper than the other, depending upon your location:

I'm not 100% positive either would work in your case yet, but I would guess it would.

I've not used the PC Power and Cooling band yet, but I've only read good things about them.

I've used one of the FSP Group drives, maybe this one, I don't recall. And it was a VERY nice PSU. Well, still is, I just don't have it at my house anymore.


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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me
 
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Hi Folks
How are you all
I was busy with work thats why I was away

I took out the power supply box and went to my local computer shop
He tested it and he said it is good

What could be the problem with this computer

I removed that extra fan so now I have 2 fans on the computer

I also noticed that those who gave me the computer must have tried a few things to get this machine working



There is a plug with inlet
Sorry I dont know the exact name for this kind of a plug it has holes in it not with pins

The kind of plug that fits into pins

It has 10 pin holes
It is attahced to one part of the computer and the other side is not attached to anything.
That does not seem normal

So what do I do now
 
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That wire is connected to a mini circuit boeard the size is
about 4 inches X 2 inches.

It looks like it is connected to the removable disc inlet or outlet.
Sorry for the language.

I just pluged it in and the fan3 turned a few times and stoped
Like old clunker car trying to start.
So I removed that 4.95 fan
and when I plug it in there is a light that goes on in the computers motherboard its green

Also since I took out the Power supply box to have it checked
I reinstalled it
Now that I plug in the computer the monitor does not sense that the plug is pluged
I dont know if that means anything
Thank
 
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No offense, but it feels like were trying to talk someone through brain surgery over the phone. Amusing, but dangerous!!

Now take the bone saw and..................
 
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Hi goombawaho
Thanks for your reply.
I agree with you but this computer has a part broken or something.

Also I am doing this for learning something and as an experiment.

My explanation of the problem with the computer is as clear as I can get.

If I had a camera it still would be the same.

Here is another observation
The computer is about to start but after about 2 or 3 seconds it stops.
 
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The computer is about to start but after about 2 or 3 seconds it stops. "

sounds like the PC is trying to start, detects that the HSF is not working and is shutting down the mainboard, to protect it from damage...

which could be due to a bad sensor on the HSF or it is plugged into the wrong port...

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"
 
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Hi BadBigBen
Thanks for your help.

1) should I remove the HSF and have it tested

2) How can I check the bad sensor


3) plugged in the wrong port, what do I do about this

4) about that cable that is connected to a small circuit like thing, if one end is not connected would this be a problem
It looks like the drive for the removable disc
 
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1) should I remove the HSF and have it tested

2) How can I check the bad sensor

basically, one just replaces the HSF, with a new one... They usually do not get tested...



3) plugged in the wrong port, what do I do about this

here you would follow the cable from the fan to the mainboard, note down where it is plugged into, then cross reference the manual where the CPU FAN connector is on the mainboard and see if it is correctly plugged in...



4) about that cable that is connected to a small circuit like thing, if one end is not connected would this be a problem
It looks like the drive for the removable disc

This could be almost anything, unfortunately, without a clear description or picture, it would be guessing as to what it is for and if it is a problem or not...

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"
 
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Honestly, at this point, I would recommend this if I were doing it. But, for your level of experience, it might be over the top. Take the motherboard out of the case and try to run it with the bare essentials: processor/processor heatsink and fan, memory, power supply and video card (if NOT on-board video).

That way you rule stuff out like hard drives, CD drives, fans, metal touching metal on the case, front audio and usb ports, etc.
 
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chiefofstaff,

The fan on top of your processor (the HSF, heat sink fan) should be plugged into a small outlet that it fits to which is labeled CPU... or CPU1 or CPU2, most likely just CPU in this case. If anything else is plugged in there, or if nothing is plugged in there, the system will think the processor fan is dead, and is not letting itself run to prevent burning out the processor.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me
 
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Or it could be labeled CPUFAN.

If it was not plugged in and previously power on in that condition, the CPU could be burnt up by the previous owner. I'm not aware that motherboards protect themselves or their processor if started without a CPU fan.
 
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Hi Friends
I have a few pictures of this computer of mine

In this shot with that cable I was talking about

In this picture you see the other end of that cableI was talking about before

4) about that cable that is connected to a small circuit like thing, if one end is not connected would this be
a problem
It looks like the drive for the removable disc





 
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