CM 7

[ATI2ner]

Our company is right now getting quotes to update our CORE from 5.2 to 6.3. (Sorry, closed process, you can't bid on it...) One of the vendors is talking about CM 7 coming out in Aug??? How can I find out more about CM 7, and is it worth the wait? Any information would be appreciated.

 

[randyb19]

I would hope that we get some info on CM 7 next week during IAUG.

 

[jimbojimbo]

Information on CM7 is currently limited and under NDA. S8300E went GA today.

 

[Stinney]

Reading the documentation on the S8300E, it looks like it will only support h323 and SIP stations, while the gateway appears to still support digital and analog moduals. So I'm interpreting this to mean that if you have the gateway registered back to a core CM (88xx) you could have digital and analog stations hanging off the gateway, but if it goes into LSP those stations won't work? That just doesn't sound right.

- Stinney

“The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” ? Confucius

 

[lopes1211]

I think you're reading that wrong. It wouldn't ever specifically say "supports digital, analog, pri, etc" it would say something like "supports h248 gw registrations".


-CL

 

[Stinney]

I think Avaya has just made the document more difficult to read. (shocking)

Within the same Hardware Description and Reference document they show the capacities for the S8300D as:

Capability S8300D Server

Maximum number of stations 450 (IP or TDM)

but for the S8300E the table just states:

Maximum number of stations Communication Manager Release 6.3.x supports:
• 1000 H.323 stations
• 700 SIP stations for LSP
• 700 SIP stations for Branch Session Manager
Communication Manager Release 7.0 supports:
• 1000 H.323 stations
• 1000 SIP stations for LSP
• 1000 SIP stations for Branch Session Manager

I think they might show that it can still manage digital and analog stations in the following statement, which is not stated this way in regards to he S8300D:

G450 Branch Gateway and G430 Branch Gateway support IP telephones, digital telephones, and analog devices such as modems, fax machines, and analog telephones. The S8300E server and the media modules converge voice and data into one infrastructure. The media modules provide analog, digital, T1/E1, BRI, and additional VoIP capabilities.

The S8300D section specifically states:

The S8300D Server supports:
• 900 ports by a combination of trunks and stations
- 450 IP stations, 450 non-IP stations, or a combination of 450 IP and non-IP stations
- 450 trunks
• 50 G250/G350/G430/G450/G650/G700 Gateways

Why they can't make the statements the same way doesn't make sense.

- Stinney

“The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” ? Confucius

 

[Stinney]

Avaya Learning document provides much better comparison information between the S8300D and E:

https://avaya.my.salesforce.com/sfc...J/x_kvWzfFVOMD07TLTfD8sncgfG58C9nGpEJFsAAmL9M

It also more clearly states:

The S8300E Embedded Server supports industry standard call control, quality of service, management function as well as IP, digital, and analog endpoints.

But still has the same table that shows:

Maximum number of stations
Communication Manager Release 6.3.x supports:
[ul]
[li]1000 H.323 stations[/li]
[li]700 SIP stations for LSP[/li]
[li]700 SIP stations for Branch Session Manager[/li]
[/ul]Communication Manager Release 7.0 supports:
[ul]
[li]1000 H.323 stations[/li]
[li]1000 SIP stations for LSP[/li]
[li]1000 SIP stations for Branch Session Manager[/li]
[/ul]

- Stinney

“The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” ? Confucius

 

[montyzummer]

Yes just a hard to read doc ,its the gateways thats doing the work and if the server includes translations with tdm/analogue is got to work , only environment where this will apply is the main CM as a feature server.

APSS (SME)
ACSS (SME)
ACIS (UC)

 

[ATI2ner]

I don't believe this thread was about the S8300E server, but thanks for sharing.

 

[Stinney]

I didn't mention the S8300E first

But when you start to look at upgrading to new CM versions, you do have to look at what equipment might need to be replaced. So if going to 7 means you would need the S8300E, which the documentation states is only for G430 and G450 gateways, you might have budgetary restraints that keep you at 6 for now because you can't afford to repace all the equipment required to go to 7. It looks like you can keep S8300D servers using CM7, but again, it's not completely clear.

- Stinney

“The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” ? Confucius