changing ground start to loop start - POTS lines

[dladuron]

We originally had the option 11 PBX whith 2 POTS lines going tinto a ANLG M/WLC card. These lines were ground start.

After chaninging ofer to VOIP that provided loop start lines we do not know haow to reconfigure the switch.

I understand the LD commands but do not know which one to start and wherer to go to change the line types.

Any hints


Thanks

 

[dladuron]

I haad two POTS - ground start. I am now replacing them with 2 VOIP lines that are loop

The original rout is auto = yes

Seems that by connecting the POTS to the trunk card the lines work for outgoing as long as the lines (LD 14)are configured in grd. However, when configuring them in loop mode they quite working althogther.

 

[johnpoole]

check the switch settings on the card

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

no switches on the card
only jumper and these are set as Loop CO

 

[johnpoole]

ok, been a while since i swapped from grd to loop, their was once switch settings, try reversing the line, can't hurt

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[johnpoole]

make sure the tgar and targ don't match, and try dialing the acod for that route

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

a little guidance here please!

Know that one is on LD 14 and the other is on LD 16 but to review this need to know how.

 

[johnpoole]

prt the route, you'll see tgar, it is more them likely a 1, unless when you put it in you did a x1, enter 0 at that prompt you'll have 0 1, to remove the 1, x1.. on the set you are testing from, check targ, default is 1, change it to any number, you can't x it out but can enter.. because they both default to 1, the block in their, unless you address it. i always use x1 on the route, then is i need a block i add the blocking tgars, the route can have more then 1 tgar, ie tgar 1 2 3 4 5 6,, that is normal for my page, every set blocks except the console and security, which are targ 7

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

Route
ld 21
rout= 1
targ=

ld 21
rout= 2
targ= 0 1

Where do I find tgar you are talking about

When I run LD 20 to see the set I do not see targ listed. Where should I look?

 

[johnpoole]

DES  SWITCH
TN   064 0 14 14
TYPE 2616
CDEN 8D
CTYP XDLC
CUST 0
AOM  0
FDN  3301
[COLOR=red]TGAR 4[/color]
LDN  NO
NCOS 4
SGRP 0
RNPG 99
SCI  0
SSU
LNRS 16
XLST
SCPW
CLS  CTD FBD WTA LPR PUA MTD FND HTD TDD HFA
     MWA LMPN RMMD SMWD AAA IMD XHD IRD NID OLD VCE DRG1
     POD DSX VMD CMSD SLKD CCSD SWD LNA CNDD
     CFTD SFD MRD DDV CNID CDCA MSID DAPA BFED RCBD
     ICDD CDMD LLCN MCTA CLBD AUTU
     GPUA DPUD DNDD CFXD ARHD FITD CLTD ASCD
     CPFA CPTA ABDD CFHD FICD NAID BUZZ AGRD MOAD AHD
     DDGA NAMA
     DRDD EXR0
     USMD USRD ULAD RTDD RBDD RBHD PGND OCBD FLXD FTTC DNDY DNO3 MCBN

CPND_LANG ENG
RCO  0
HUNT
PLEV 02
FCAR NO
AST
IAPG 0
AACS NO
ITNA NO
DGRP
MLWU_LANG 0
DNDR 0
KEY  00 SCR 1962 0     MARP
        CPND
          NAME John
          XPLN 5
          DISPLAY_FMT FIRST,LAST
     01 HOT D 1 9
     02 AO6
     03 TRN
     04 CFW 4
     05 TRC
     06
     07
     08 DIG 54 62 R
     09 ADL 16
     10 ADL 16
     11 ADL 16
     12 ADL 16
     13 ADL 16
     14
     15
DATE  4 MAR 2005

on the set your looking for tgar, on the route your looking for targ.. ld 21 prt rdb, to out the targ, enter x1 at the targ prompt

REQ: prt
TYPE: rdb
SCH0099 RDB?
TYPE: ****
OVL000
>ld 21
PT1000

REQ: prt
TYPE: rdb
CUST 0
ROUT 156

TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 156
DES  BSLD
TKTP DID
M911_ANI  NO
M911_TONE  NO
NPID_TBL_NUM   0
SAT  NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
    MODE PRA
    IFC  D250
    SBN  NO
    PNI  00000
    NCNA YES
    NCRD NO
    CHTY BCH
    ISAR NO
    CPUB OFF
    DAPC NO
    BCOT 0
DSEL VOD
PTYP PRI
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
DCDR NO
ICOG IAO
RANX NO
SRCH LIN
TRMB YES
STEP 157
ACOD 8280
TCPP NO
PII NO
[COLOR=red]TARG[/color][COLOR=blue] (i used x1 when i put this in)[/color]
CLEN 1
BILN NO
OABS
INST
IDC  YES
DCNO 1 *
NDNO 1
DEXT NO
DNAM NO
ICIS YES
TIMR ICF  512
     OGF  512
     EOD  13952
     NRD  10112
     DDL  70
     ODT  4096
     RGV  640
     FLH  510
     GRD  896
     SFB  3
     NBS  2048
     NBL  4096



PAGE 002

     IENB  5
     VSS  0
     VGD  6
DRNG NO
CDR  YES
INC  YES
LAST YES
QREC YES
OAL  YES
AIA  YES
OAN  YES
OPD  YES
CDRX NO
NATL NO
TDG
VRAT NO
MUS  NO
RACD NO
EQAR NO
FRL  0 0
FRL  1 0
FRL  2 0
FRL  3 0
FRL  4 0
FRL  5 0
FRL  6 0
FRL  7 0
OHQ  NO
OHQT 00
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
PLEV 2
MCTS NO
ALRM NO
ART  0
SGRP 0
AACR NO




john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

ok I have changed the TARG with LD 16 ( do I need to do a command in LD 32 to make this become active?

I still do not see anything in LD 14 for TGAR (nor in LD @) - prt)

What seems to be the problem is that while it is in loop start the truck card does not serach for an outside line to call.

This may be part of the problem with incoming.

 

[dladuron]

ok I have changed the TARG with LD 16 ( do I need to do a command in LD 32 to make this become active?

I still do not see anything in LD 14 for TGAR (nor in LD 20 - prt)

What seems to be the problem is that while it is in loop start the truck card does not serach for an outside line to call. However when it is in grd it will search though each TN until it get a clear line.

This may be part of the problem with incoming.

 

[johnpoole]

targ/tgar doesn't block incoming.. and trunks (ld 14) doesn't have either.. one on the route, one on the set.. they can't match.. how do you have the incoming routed?

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

where do I go to find routing for incoming?

 

[johnpoole]

for a pots line the route needs to be on auto and the atdn has to have a target in the trunk. otherwise the switch has no defined answer point

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[dladuron]

Lets review

The PBX was originally installed with POTS lines type ground. All functions worked including call in call out voicemail, conf and full routing etc.

We move from carrier POTS to VOIP which are type loop.

Leaving the system with its original configuration we are able to call out, route within company and have voice mail within company. What we loose is incoming capability.

Changing the line type (using LD 14) to loop we loose all function ability. (Note - you do not even hear the switch trying to check other lines)

Here is our current configuration

LD 20
DES LOCAL
TYPE – COT
TN – 002 0 00 01
CDEN - 8D
CUST – 0
XTRK – XUT
TIMP – 600
BIMP – 3COM
TRK – ANLG
NCOS – 1
RTMB - 1 2
ADTN – 5999
SIGL – LOP
SUPN – NO
AST – NO
IAPG – 0
CLS – UNR DTN CND WTA LPR
APN THFD P10 NTC LOL
TKID –


LD 21
TYPE - RDB
CUST – 0
DMOD –
ROUT - 2
DES – LOCAL2
TKTP - COT
NPID_TBL_NUM - 0
PRIV - NO
SAT - NO
RCLS - EXT
DTRK - NO
PTYP - ACO
AUTO - YES
ICOG - IAO
RANX - NO
SRCH - LIN
TRMB - YES
STEP -
ACOD - 7902
CPP – NO
TARG –
CLEN – 1
BILN – NO
OABS –
TIMR – ICF 512
OGF 512
EOD 13952
DSI 34944
NRD 10112
DDL 70
ODT 4096
RGV 640
FLH 510
GRD 896
SFB 3
CRD 512
TFD 0
LEXT 100
SST - 3 0
NEDC – ETH
FEDC – ORG
CPDC – NO
SPCT- IMM
HOLD – 02 02 40
SEIZ - 02 02
RGFL – 02 02
RVSD – 08 31
ILLR – 02 02
DRNG – NO
CDR – NO
MUS – YES
MRT – 4
MR – NO
MANO – NO
EQAR – NO
FRL – 0 0
FRL – 1 0
FRL – 2 0
FRL – 3 0
FRL – 4 0
FRL – 5 0
FRL – 6 0
FRL – 7 0
OHQ – NO
OHQT – 00
TDBL – 0
ATAN – NO
OHTD – NO
PLEV – 2
MCTS – NO
ALRM – NO
ART – 0
SGRP – 0
AACR – NO

 

[mluckie1]

On the Trunk members try changing DTN to DIP. Some VOIP systems do not recognize the tones. Also try and clip a test set onto one of the trunks to see if you can dial with the LOP start line and bypass the swit

 

[dladuron]

ok
1) Clipping on to the punch down block that leads to the switch - I get dial tone and can send and receive calls.

2) Is there anyother place then the CLS (LD 14)that I need to change DTN to DIP?

 

[mluckie1]

No that would be the only place. Each TN would need to be changed if it works.

 

[johnpoole]

if it is the dip cls, then it can't outbound, but a tone on the port will let you know if you hit the trunk after dialing...your about to break the record for number of replies

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[johnpoole]

after i posted this am,m i changed my 4 cot's from grd to loop, just to see if i had missed a step. outed the tn's in 14, built a new route (auto yes) in 16 added back the 4 cot's in 14.. works both ways, without a jumper change, but they are slow to respond, and i am using the acod to access, instead of a rlb...just a fyi, took less then 10 minutes

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc