I have sms setup on a BDC with windows NT server 4.0 sp6a. I have the one subnet i am on defined, CAP enabled, Remote logon service enabled, and i can see the server on the network. Yet whenever i try to run smsman.exe it says "cannot find logon point". I even run smsman on the SMS server itself, and it cannot see the logon point. Yet when i ran the network discovery, i can now see all the DCs, and 2 computers are installed as clients. I dont want to use the logon discovery option, so how do i get smsman to work? Thanks in advance, TT