Word Temp files Hidden, so folder gets hidden too! 1

[paulhthomas]

Guys, I hope you can help.
I've got a user with a redirected my documtents (maybe irrelevant).
When he creates and edits a word document and saves it to my documents (which is actually on the server), it creates the standard word temporary files beginning with ~$
These files are hidden, and for some reason, and I think the 2 are linked, the folder it's in also becomes hidden.
Can anyone explain this, or tell me how I can stop it happening.

Thanks

Paul

Paul Thomas
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[fumei]

Does the Documents location in Word match the location of MyDocuments?

The temp files - ~$whatever.doc - are normally created in the folder the original file is in. If the file is not saved yet, it has no filename, and therefore there should not be a ~$xxxxxxx.

What exactly is your problem?

Gerry
My paintings and sculpture

 

[paulhthomas]

thanks fumei.
My problem is it seems when these hidden temp files get created, they are created as hidden files. then in turn the folder that the file is in (which also contains the original word doc) becomes hidden.
Perhaps I assumed it was new workd docs,but as you said it won't create a file starting with ~$ until it's been saved.

Any ideas?

Paul Thomas
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[fumei]

What?????

Let me see if I understand this correctly.

You have a folder, a network folder. It is NOT hidden.

You open a file from that folder.

A temp file is created.

You are saying that this temp file - ~$whatever - is hidden, AND this now makes a previously NOT hidden folder...hidden.

If this is what you are saying, I have never heard of such a thing.

First of all, do you have your folder options set to show hidden files? If not, make it show hidden files. Or at least the one in question. I am going to have to try and duplicate this. I always have my folders set to show hidden files. I hate hidden files.

Still, if you are saying that a previously NOT hidden folder becomes hidden due to the creation of a temp file...hmmmmm.

However, you still have not explained what is the problem. Even if this is accurate, what is the problem? Oh...doh...OK, the problem is the folder becomes hidden, or so you say.

Hmmmm. Never heard of this. Hard for me to imagine the creation of a hidden file would change the properties of the folder. Not only that, but if I may extrapolate, you seem to be saying that it STAYS hidden.

Please confirm.

Gerry
My paintings and sculpture

 

[paulhthomas]

Gerry,
Yeah, you've got the problem exactly. The temp file seems to turn the not previously hidden folder, hidden!
It's crazy I know, but it's happening.
If you ask me it's not a huge problem, but the problem is actually with the IT director of one of our big clients. lucky me eh!
He says himself that he can turn on hidden folders and see it, but it's just an inconvenience.

It's so weird!

Any help appreciated

Thanks

Paul

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[fumei]

Sorry, but I can not duplicate this.

I set up MyDocuments to point to a network drive.
I set that folder to hide hidden files.
I opened a file from that folder.
I can not see the ~$whatever temp file.
I write a new file and save it to that folder, and close it.
I open it, and I can not see the ~$whatever temp file.

In all cases I can still see the folder.

If I turn show hidden files back on, I can see the ~$whatever temp files.

The temp file is hidden if Do not show hidden files and folders is selected.

But in no case does the creation of a hidden file MAKE the folder (which is not hidden) now hidden.

Sorry, but I can not duplicate this. Hopefully someone else may come up with something.

Gerry
My paintings and sculpture

 

[xlhelp]

I have been reading this exchange with interest. I have never heard of something like this, either.

May I suggest renaming the profile, shut down and re-creating profile by logging under same user name?

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[dglienna]

Where are his AutoRecover files being saved?

-David
2006 & 2007 Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP)
2006 Dell Certified System Professional (CSP)

 

[paulhthomas]

Thanks for all your input and attempts to recreate this problem Gerry, appreciate it.

xlhelp, thanks for the input. When you say recreate the profile, do you mean the local profile on the users pc, or the folder on the server where my documents is being redirected?
If I can get a quick response from you, I'll be talking with the guy today and will try whichever you suggest.

dglienna, I tihnkt he auto recover files were being created locally on his C: drive. But again, when I connect in to his pc today I will have a look and post my findings here.

Thanks again guys

Paul Thomas
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[tf1]

When you say 'redirected', do you mean you are somehow redirecting his documents other than the Documents path set under his Tools, Options, File Locations tab? If so how?


Regards: tf1

 

[paulhthomas]

no. I meant My Documents is being directed to a share on a file and print server, using the folder redirection gpo.

Paul Thomas
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[tf1]

What happens if you change the Documents default file locations under Tools, Options, File Locations to that server folder instead of GPO redirect? Does the same problem occur?

Terry

Regards: tf1

 

[paulhthomas]

Hi tf1, that's exactly how it's setup. It's pointing to \\domain\homes\username

Dglienna, his auto recover files are pointing at
c:\documents and settings\username\application data\microsoft\word
Could this be a problem? I'm wondering whether to try repointing these at his home share too?

I have renamed the guy's local profile and had him to log back in so it creates a new one so will monitor this.

I hope Ican get to the bottom of this, it's a really good problem eh!!





Paul Thomas
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[tf1]

Please define good problem? Challenging? <g>

I think creating a fresh profile is a good start: profile problems can be the most difficult to diagnose and often produce the most bizarre symptoms.


Regards: tf1

 

[paulhthomas]

yeah, challenging!
No problems are good, but we're stuck with them so might as well enjoy the challenges!



Paul Thomas
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[paulhthomas]

guys, thanks for all the input, was much appreciated.
I managed to fix the problem (or at least, so far, so good!) by recreating the users local profile.
Cheers XLHelp, perhaps you should think about changing your name to WordHelp )


Paul Thomas
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70-294 - Passed
70-284 - Passed
70-297 - Passed