Will IP Office Admin (Manager) run on a MAC?

[telecomgear]

I ran out of time last night with an install to troubleshoot putting Manager on a customers MAC PC. Will it install? Thanks.

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[amriddle01]

No it will not, unless they run the Windows emulator thing, but they will be used to incompatabilty using Macs

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[hairlessupportmonkey]

run parallels. job done.

ACSS - SME

 

[telecomgear]

Parallels?
Windows emulator. Is this something installed on MACS? Should I do a search on the MAC for this? Forgive me, I do not know MAC at all.


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[Westi]

parallel means dual start one for windows the other one for MAC OS so you can start windows when you need to use Manager.

the emulator to run Windows programs on the MAC OS might not work because of certain issues with .net I heard but never actually worked with a MAC either.

If you don't need it and just your customer does tell them no but they can try on their own without any support from you or Avaya ootherwise you will have them constantly on your back to help for every little hiccup that thing has.

Joe W.

FHandw., ACSS

insanity is just a state of mind

 

[telecomgear]

Thanks all. It's more my company wanting this available so we can do remote assistance/MAC/troubleshooting. The customer does not care. I can still do dial-up. Thanks again for the help.

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[hairlessupportmonkey]

Parallels is like VMWare workstation.

Westi is thinking of Boot Camp. Its a dual boot senario.

I think Parallels does support Manager OK. Download the trial and find out!

http://www.parallels.com/uk/

ACSS - SME

 

[telecomgear]

Thanks! I will.

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[Greybeard191]

I've used Parallels and found it OK, although their upgrade policy is expensive... you can pretty much count on paying them 45-60$ at least once a year if you are religious about keeping your Mac upto date (almost any significant Mac OS upgrade requires a paid Parallels upgrade). Although Parallels updates include feature/speed additions/upgrades, they also include support for OSX upgrades, so you're forced to upgrade.

VMWare Fusion (the name of their windows emulator for Mac)is also "paid", seems slower than Parallels to me, but also seems more stable and less buggy. VMWare is also far more reasonable about upgrades. OSX compatibility upgrades are typically free... it's the feature/speed upgrades that typically cost, so if you're just looking to keep what you've got, you can go a fair while without paying for an upgrade.

Virtual Box is free, open-source, and apparently much more difficult to install. Much more feature-limited, and also does not support booting Windows off an existing Bootcamp install... something that Parallels and VMWare do support. This might be important to you if you dual-boot, as using Virtual Box will force you to have a bootcamp parition/Windows install, and also a virtual machine for Virtual Box to run on, and never the two shall meet (e.g. if you install Manager in Bootcamp Windows and Virtual Box, these are two completely different, unrelated installs). In certain scenarios, you might want this... perhaps you might want different versions of software running on the same machine? This is actually the reason I've never tried it. I only want a single windows install.

In summary:

Parallels: somewhat buggy, fast, feature-laden, well integrated with OSX, expensive to keep upgraded

VMWare Fusion: stable, reliable, less features than Parallels, reasonable upgrade policy

Virtual Box: free, feature-lite, works only in virtual machine mode, does not support running off an existing bootcamp install. Difficult (nerdy) to install and configure (for some of you this might be a 'feature').

my two bits.

GB

 

[fshaw]

Save the heartache.

Just buy them a little netbook, upgrade to win7 pro, load manager on it, and hide it in the phone closet.

Just my opinion.

 

[Greybeard191]

In the long run fshaw's suggestion is probably far easier.

GB

 

[telecomgear]

I have to agree with fshaws suggestion. But I'd wait to see if the customer is a "frequent flier" in regards to needing help or MAC work all the time to justify the cost.

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[fshaw]

Offices that use Mac are full of hands-on people. In general, they like to do things themselves rather than have someone do for them. They will want to do their own basic changes--names, hunt group membership, office hours, vm passwords, e-mail notification.

A netbook is less painful than an emulator to install and use. The cost is less than the labor for implementing and testing an emulator from scratch.

Good luck,
Frank

 

[andyjreed]

I'm actually using a Mac to setup an IP Office right now. I just got a cheap $150 dollar refurb Dell and put it in the closet with the IPO equipment. I just use Microsoft's remote desktop client for Mac OS to log in.

 

[tlpeter]

So you use a way too expension mac and an extra PC to program an ipo

I understand the fun of it but I would get myself a laptop for this job and use the mac for private.

Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum

honey, i fried the IP Office !!!

Sarcasm, it's only one of the services I offer.

 

[ipohead]

Have a look at Crossover for Mac as you don't even need Windows and it is reasonably priced. I've not tried this with Manager but there is a trial at

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

if anyone wants to give it a try; though as you can see it is only supported for certain apps.

 

[hairlessupportmonkey]

Im not sure crossover supports 3.5 .net yet

ACSS - SME