When I added a second monitor to my Win 98 system, Windows placed my s 2

[AnnOminous]

When I added a second monitor to my Win 98 system, Windows placed my sound card in conflict with my printer. I manually switched the printer to a free IRQ (5) and the printer worked fine. Now Windows won't auto-detect the sound card (originally IRQ 7) or accept the existance of new hardware. I've been through the procedure... pulled the card, rebooted, reinstalled, etc... Windows can't see it anymore. I currently have 2 free IRQS (1 and 7). The card has to be on 5 or 7.<br>

Does Win 98 STEAL an IRQ for the second monitor?<br>

How can I get my sound back and keep the second monitor?<br>

 

[jsauce]

I'd go into Device Manager and remove all PnP devices. Reboot the system, and let windows detect and install the devices to IRQs as needed. You sound card should go on IRQ 5. Put your printer on IRQ 7. <p>John D. Saucier<br><a href=mailto:jsauce@net1plus.com>jsauce@net1plus.com</a><br><a href=

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[AnnOminous]

I tried that. Twice. Windows had the audacity to assign them to the same IRQ, inform me that the devices were conflicting and offer to help me resolve the conflict. The last go-around gave IRQ 1 to the keyboard and IRQ 3 to the printer. I can't even find an owner for IRQs 5 and 7 and Windows won't PnP the sound card.<br>
Device manager is backward: isn't there some way to get a list of the IRQs and their owners?

 

[jsauce]

Sounds like Windows is giving you a lot of problems. One thing you could try is manually reassigning the the resources, in Device Manger. Simply click on the device, then click on Properties. Then click on the resources tab, and uncheck the little box checked &quot;Use Automatic Settings&quot;. From there either modify the IRQ or change the Basic Configuration. I cannot believe Windows is giving this much trouble. <p>John D. Saucier<br><a href=mailto:jsauce@net1plus.com>jsauce@net1plus.com</a><br><a href=

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[AnnOminous]

This is odd. I upgraded my second monitor, started the system and Windows told me it was installing new hardware. The sound card went back to IRQ 7, where it had been before. Thanks for the help but, I'm starting to think there is no help for Windows.<br>
Now if I could get rid of these pesk horizontal interference lines! Would it help to place some sheet steel between the monitors? I like them close together.

 

[robherc]

The steel might be an <b>EXCELLENT</b> idea....as far as the conflicts go though....try to stear clear of <b><u><span style=color:red>ALL</u></span></b> PnP devoces in the future; jumpers & IRQs may take a couple more minutes to configure initially but are a *LOT* better about not getting &quot;magically&quot; changed to a non-workable setting at the drop of Bill's hat (and they're almost ALWAYS cheaper too!! <p>-Robherc<br><a href=mailto:robherc@netzero.net>robherc@netzero.net</a><br><a href= > </a><br>*nix installation & program collector/reseller. Contact me if you think you've got one that I don't

 

[jsauce]

true. But remember that Windows 9x is like the PnP system. Thats what Microsoft and most users wanted. <p>John D. Saucier<br><a href=mailto:jsauce@net1plus.com>jsauce@net1plus.com</a><br><a href=

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[robherc]

What's what &quot;most users&quot; wanted? Harware & OSs that crash & burn @ the drop of Wild Bill Gates's hat???<br>
I <i>think</i> you lost me on that one <p>-Robherc<br><a href=mailto:robherc@netzero.net>robherc@netzero.net</a><br><a href= > </a><br>*nix installation & program collector/reseller. Contact me if you think you've got one that I don't

 

[jsauce]

Remember that with the advancement of the internet and wildly powerful and colorful games, computers are no longer being used by just us <b>geeks</b>. Everyday someone who has no idea how to use a computer is buying one and another completely numb minded person is added to the valley. These people care nothing for the skill required to actually run a computer but more for their buddy list on AOL, and the way that MP3 rocks on their brand new $200 sound card. They continue to push the envelope buying ever useless junk to make ther computer worth more then their car, in the hopes that they can get even more speed and better graphics in Quake. They live for the fun they have and don't care how any of it works, just as long as it doesn't break. They transfix their eyes upon the screen as they watch that awesome new video game that only works with a Pentium III 500, and 256MB of ram. They become addicts to the machine and only move when they cannot stand the pain of not urinating in 10 hours or sleeping in 24. They begin dropping from society, and they replace it with the chatrooms on AOL. The socialism is limited to the names in bar on the right, and the pictures they receive of the people they talk with, pictures of people who are as removed from society as them so much they send them pictures of porn stars and tell them its them. These are people who become such addicts of these ways their only peace becomes the time they spend on the internet, and that is why they are the first to scream when things don't work. Like heroin withdrawal, they begin to convulse the more they are off, while we technicians work on their computers. They begin to get testy asking questions like, &quot;How much longer will this take?&quot; and &quot;Is it almost ready?&quot; And only when it has been fixed do they feel better. So I ask you, don't you think that <i>most</i> users are in fact them and not us? Most users are the people who pause their computer life to install that PnP device because it installs in 5 minutes rather than 10? So they may get back to their cyber world? <p>John D. Saucier<br><a href=mailto:jsauce@net1plus.com>jsauce@net1plus.com</a><br><a href=

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[Alt255]

I've seen a similar affliction in the business world; a manager whose greatest PC triumph was to move a spreadsheet column tells you, &quot;He have a situation. I'm pretty sure all our software is going to crash in 2000 so I want you to rewrite all of our software. It'll take about a week, right? And I want you to write it in Java because it's cutting-edge technology and I downloaded a free copy. Don't know Java? Okay, I bought this book &quot;Learn Java in 21 hours&quot;. It should tell you everything you need to know. And let me have the book when you're done because I want to learn it too. I'm really good with other spreadsheets. I should be able to help alot. On second thought, write it in Visual Basic. A lot of the code is in place so it will be easy. But make sure you use SQL Server so everyone will be able to update the mainframe instantaneously. On another note, we're running out of time and our customers want to know where we stand, so fix the existing software first. Make sure it's ready for 2000 and then rewrite it so everybody will be happy. Oh, and we're cutting your hours so you'll be more focused. I'M BUYING BRAND NEW SPEAKERS FOR EVERYBODY! Do payroll, personnel and purchasing first. Save manufacturing and administration for last. They don't need computers, anyway. Will it be ready this afternoon? I'm going to get some coffee. Page me as soon as I can start clicking some buttons. Make everybody happy!<br>
<br>
True story. Condensed from many months of pointy-haired torture.<br>
<br>
We are all users. Some of us won't have a grasp of reality until everything drifts away in a wisp of smoke.

 

[Zelandakh]

All the people who can honestly say that they have not had that story this year please raise your hand high in the air.<br>
<br>
Zelandakh - its easy to count to none.<br>
<br>
P.S. There is a movement afoot. Us &quot;real&quot; computer users, who are not born to surf and when we say we know a piece of software it means we can do more than spell the name, are slowly becoming more senior. Eventually, we will get there. When that day comes, we can implement a new philosophy. We can begin a new way of living. All people designated computer illiterate to a specification designed by us will be...<br>
answers on a postcard please

 

[jsauce]

That will be a good day indeed. <p>John D. Saucier<br><a href=mailto:jsauce@net1plus.com>jsauce@net1plus.com</a><br><a href=

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[robherc]

If you guys don't stop fanticising & start getting your work done so you can get those promotions we'll end up right back where we started and my generation's experts will have to do it......;P <p>-Robherc<br><a href=mailto:robherc@netzero.net>robherc@netzero.net</a><br><a href= > </a><br>*nix installation & program collector/reseller. Contact me if you think you've got one that I don't

 

[Alt255]

Thanks for the vote of solidarity... I think....

 

[Zelandakh]

No seriously! Have you read Computing this week? (UK publication for all those none UK people). Big article on IT staff heading to the Board Room. Just like engineers in Germany.<br>
<br>
Sounds like Rob is still in diapers...?

 

[Alt255]

They can have the board room. I'm too busy to sit in a meeting with others (even if they are peers), trying to devise new ways to make work impossible for everyone else.<br>
And don't be too hard on the X generation... they grew up with &quot;new&quot; technology and usually have a fresh outlook on the old technologies. Robherc, for instance, has given me insights and ideas I may have never found on my own (given my myopic XOR SI,SI mentality).<br>
<br>
Even if there was a sudden, world-wide shift in priorities and power structure, we would return to the time-tested pecking order within a few hours; management finds a way to impede, staff finds a way to circumvent.<br>

 

[Zelandakh]

And MIS cures the problems that in general they got the blame for anyway...

 

[Alt255]

Ooops, I left that one out. I stand corrected and embarassed by the omission. Okay, maybe it is time for another revolution.<br>

 

[robherc]

I agree...it is <i><b>fully</b></i> into the time for a new revolution....now; how do we <i>successfully</i> get there from here and <i>how far</i> there do we want to get should be our first 2 questions......I don't <i>really</i> think we want to use muzzle loaders this time though(<i>or straight ASSEMBLY code</i>)......;P <p>-Robherc<br><a href=mailto:robherc@netzero.net>robherc@netzero.net</a><br><a href= > </a><br>*nix installation & program collector/reseller. Contact me if you think you've got one that I don't

 

[Rhavin]

Interesting outlooks you guys have, and I would tend to agree in most cases I saw earlier on, AnnOminous asked if there was a way to get a list of IRQ's and their owners.<br>
AnnOminous, if you are using Win98, there is a way (if you haven't already found it yourself) to check your entire system. Go to your &quot;System Tools&quot; in your Accessories menu, and in there you will find a utility called &quot;System Information&quot;. Once you have got it loaded up, you will see in the left hand pane, a list of items that can be expanded. If you expand the &quot;Hardware Resources&quot;, you will see an item &quot;IRQs&quot;. You can use that to view every device and its IRQ. You'll find that this utility can be quite handy for troubleshooting. If you also take a look at the &quot;Tools&quot; menu of the utility, you will find several other handy utils. <br>
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Hope this helps in some small way.