What to do ?????????? 11

[BlckJckFrnk]

I work in a samll of 50 and I try to due my best to get rid of spam. While going through my spam filter, I came across one for a kiddie porn site. Not only one, but two. This is the first time I had to deal with this issue, if it is an issue. Again this is the first time. Should I confront the end user that it was directed too???? Should I tell a mgr???????

 

[Grenage]

Kjonnnn,
I believe Glen was thinking more along the lines of reporting the site itself to the authorities, rather than the recipient of the mail.

 

[Kjonnnn]

Yea but you can't do one without the other.

 

[chiph]

b) Tell the recipient what you've done, that they got the benefit of the doubt but that such things do get noticed.

GwydionM -

That's as much an accusation. Given the seriousness of the crime, and the social stigma of even being accused of kiddie porn, I wouldn't say anything until you had concrete proof they had requested it, and had a continued history of browsing such sites.

Because otherwise you'll find the company & yourself in court for slander.

Chip H.


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[dwarfthrower]

A very emotive topic... one that I would approach with extreme caution. I'd say absolutely nothing to the individual involved. I wouldn't imagine that notifying any authority will prove particularly fruitful - as Kjonnnn points out, they have their own means of finding illicit sites.

I think that by mentioning it to anyone you are causing unneccessary grief to all concerned. It's a hugely emotional subject... I know that if anyone messed with my kids they'd be lucky if the authorities got to them before I did, and conversely, anyone suggesting I had done anything untoward to anyone else's kids would be lucky to leave the room with the same number of teeth that they entered with.

Quietly monitor the person's account. That's all I would suggest doing.

 

[Dollie]

It seems that there is quite a bit of confusion in the later posts about who's turning in who. I think GlenJohnson has the right idea about turning in the SENDER of the e-mail, not the recipient of the spam. There are appropriate channels to take care of this, and no, the government doesn't know about every single website, so it's of some type of benefit to turn in sites that prey on children.

 

[muddyjohn]

chipih, Funny you think no one would do that stuff at work, but the truth is they do. We had the FBI show up at our office and we found someone doing it. They had to serve jail time and it was bad for our company. Luckily we keep it out of the news.
So all I have to say is "Protect the Company, so you will have a job"

 

[Spirit]

If it was "normal" stuff - including kinky / weird stuff - I would confront the user and slap them on the wrist then esculate it if they repeat.

However due to the content matter I would phone the police and get them in and let them deal. End of.

In the UK you have broken the law by looking at that sort of material not too sure about the US though. Bollox to the person involved, bollox to the company (and job for that matter) you need to be able to sleep at night even if it is under a bridge!

 

[Dollie]

I don't know if anyone's heard about this, but someone lately has been "joe jobbing" a website called "dark profits" (no link here). A joe job is when someone having nothing to do with the site falsely promotes it in a spam e-mail to be something it isn't. The e-mail lists bombs, drugs, and children for sale. I was sick the first time I got it.

I receive e-mail for postmaster, admin, webmaster, and support, all e-mails posted on our website. Others in my office, people having names such as Tom, Dick or Harry, have received the e-mail too. We can't be blamed for the content contained in the e-mail, and we now have the additional software needed to block and delete e-mail like that before we have to look at it.

Shoot the messenger, not the recipient. We're not sure of the content or direction of the original e-mail here, and condemning the recipient for it may not be the right course of action. Looking at things, I'd assume it was a spam making its rounds, and not something to crucify someone over. Just an opinion....

 

[Kjonnnn]

Its funny how the big allegations make front page of a newspaper, but the retractions get slapped in the back pages.

Once again I say, be careful with "someone else's" life.

 

[chiph]

chipih, Funny you think no one would do that stuff at work, but the truth is they do. We had the FBI show up at our office and we found someone doing it. They had to serve jail time and it was bad for our company. Luckily we keep it out of the news.
So all I have to say is "Protect the Company, so you will have a job"

Muddyjohn -

I've seen my share of "embarrasing to the company" stuff too, but this is in another league. Once, maybe twice, it can be put down to spam, just delete it and carry on.

Continued surfing and/or receipt of the stuff needs to be documented -- showing that the employee was actively involved in it's solicitation -- so that it can stand up in court.

Chip H.


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[skiflyer]

The guy/gal got an email, this didn't show up in his browser history or weblogs... read the initial post, there is absolutely nothing in the information we've been provided which suggests the individual committed ANY wrongdoing.

Discuss the merits of whether or not the site itself should be reported and I get it... but reporting this guy to the authorities? What the heck for, owning an email address? Any authorities worth their salt would dismiss this faster than you could say boo... but if you got unlucky with a local officer who doesn't deal with tech, this could get real ugly for no good reason.

-Rob

 

[lionelhill]

I got an e-mail advertising a child porn site once, and reported it to the authorities. Nothing happened, because the authorities said there was no way to prove that any photographs really were of children (of course I didn't visit the site, so I don't know how much doubt the photos allowed...) and anyway, I got the feeling there was a distinct lack of interest at the local cop-shop, if indeed it got that far. The trouble is, it's a lot easier to deal with a stolen car in the local high-street than go chasing someone who might be sitting on the far side of the world. In summary: don't nobble the recipient. But report the site to anyone you want. Nothing much will happen, anyway. Or maybe I'm just a sceptic.

 

[cian]

This is what i'd do anyway:

1. forward it to your local police force or whatever you call them in your country

2. maybe do a bit of snooping to see if you can find out the host/ISP info of the site and inform them of the issue (could be hosted locally though)

3. whatever country the site is based in (if you can find that info) i'd forward the mails to an authority based there.

4. delete the mail and get back to work!






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