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What systems are compatible with the T7316E handset 3

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tubdub

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Jan 5, 2012
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Hi,

I have an office with 3 users which was previously set up years ago by someone else and the phone system has packed up.
The grey box on the wall has is plain apart from a circular BT logo in the centre and there is no model information. The handsets are BT branded T7316Es. I'm guessing this is a therefore a Norstar system of some sort.

I need to supply a new system as cheap as possible that will never have to cope with more than 3 analogue lines with 5 users and basic functions such as call hold/transfer and voicemail. The old handsets are all in working order so to keep the cost down I'd like re-use them.

Can anyone tell me if there are any other systems out there that are compatible with these handsets apart from the Norstar system?

Many thanks
 
To get full use of T7316e you can use a CICS or MICS with 6.1 software or higher (not sure what equiv level that is in the UK) or a BCM 50. You can use a lower software level but all the features of the e won't be available.

Marv ccna
 
Sounds like you have a BT branded Norstar modular or compact system. The handsets should be compatible with the BCM range as well as other Norstar systems. It's best if you contact me via the link below as I've had a number of years with these old beasts.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
Ip office

You can run it in norstar mode with a dig 8 and atm4 for dirt
Cheap

ddcommllc.com
Avaya/Toshiba/SyntelSolutions

ACIS
 
Phoneguy610, in what area would be a "dirt cheap" price for IP Office that is to handle 3 analog trunks and 5 T7316E phones?
 
And they would be getting a new system that's not end of life

ddcommllc.com
Avaya/Toshiba/SyntelSolutions

ACIS
 
Out of curiosity what do the ucx in this situation go for?

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ACIS
 
As much as I'd like to go with a more current system like IP Office, my client will never make use of its full functionality. I can get hold of a BCM50 for £100 and that will do everything that is required.

Thanks for all the quick responses!
 
BCM50 could qualify as dirt cheap if you can find one for $150 or so with the licenses you need. The Telecom Shop in UK sells R1 and R2 BCM50 systems for £100 (or best offer), but these systems have two problems:
a) They do not have a keycode for analog trunks
b) The are R1/R2 (unsupported for long time)
Due to b), buying a keycode for analog trunks could be a bit of a problem. It might be easier to add an expansion chassis and GASM4 MBM (1 expansion keycode is usually included on the systems from the Telecom Shop).

In short, if you decide to buy a BCM50, make sure that keycodes for 3 or 4 analog trunks, 5 or more digital sets and 5 or more voice mail seats are included.
 
Thanks for the last response, I was oblivious of the need for licenses for the analogue trunks, that starts to push the price up considerably.

I have seen some Meridian Norstar Compact Plus CCUs going for around £50, and I can get hold of a Startalk 180 for about the same price.

Can anyone tell me what analogue trunk cards are compatible with the Compact Plus, and is the Startalk 180 a decent match for this CCU.

Also are their any pitfalls to look out for if I go this route. I know the system is ancient but the customer just wants to keep costs down.
 
i would never advise the purchase of a system that is at least 15 years old when you could purchase a brand new one for so little.

it is crazy that people treat the heartbeat of their businesses that way.

If this were your server or desktop PC it would be a no brainer.

ddcommllc.com
Avaya/Toshiba/SyntelSolutions

ACIS
 
I agree completely, but not my money and the advice falls on deaf ears.

Just out of interest, does anyone know if a T7316E will work with the BT Versatility system?
 
They will not

Your options :
Norstar
Bcm
Ip office
I believe ucx but you will have to speak with one of the ucx guys

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ACIS
 
UCx can use T7316E phones, but I don't think a new UCx system would be a cost effective solution for a 3x3 (or 3x5) system.

In UK, if they really want to keep the T7316E phones and if they don't mind switching to BRI, the least expensive solution would most likely be:
- BCM50 - £100
- BCM50 expansion chassis - £20
- ISDN2 BRI 4 Port MBM - £17.50

Prices are based on The Telecom Shop items below:
You could use the Make Offer option to get the price even lower.
 
In the UK, the BCM 50 systems were supported from release 2 onwards for analogue lines and extensions. My test BCM 50 is at release 2.0 and I have two analogue lines with a couple of analogue extensions that work just fine.

Therefore, if you can obtain a cheap BCM 50, you might still be able to purchase some auth codes for analogue lines.

I found this useful website in the UK today that might offer you some thoughts?.




All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
Unfortunately switching to BRI is not an option in this case.

After some consideration I'm going to do exactly what firebird suggests. I can get a BCM50 release 2.0 for £140 then add 4 analogue trunk licenses for £75 so £215 in total and this option will be easiest to support and configure.

Thanks for all the responses and help, I do have some questions regarding the BCM50, but I'll start another thread for that.
 
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