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What exactly is in the Ointment? 1

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Thadeus

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OK, so I'm reading a sports writer who states that there were "flaws in the ointment", and I think, "silly, silly man".

Then I google his phrase to see how often it is in use on the web. Only 92 hits, but the very first one is an article actually titled "Flaws in the Ointment" from the UPI.

Of course I then search for "Flies in the Ointment" and with 25,600 hits, I assume I have a clear winner.

I can understand the error in ordinary dialect, but I wonder to what degree pronounciation of "flies" as "flaws" is the culprit in this switcheroo...

~Thadeus
 
I've always heard it "FLIES in the ointment." Was the writer from New England area? I wonder if he/she used a speech-to-text program that picked up the accent incorrectly?


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Based on the nature of the editorial, I think choosing the title, "The Flaws in the Ointment", was an intentional play on words, using 'flaws' instead of 'flies'.

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Kuduv been that a baseball batter flawed, as the fielder was catching the fly, by failing to reach first base, so that instead of having flied out, he flawed out. ;-)



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How do you mean CC?

I ask, because Flies would make just as much sense wouldn't it? Given that the phrase Flies in the Ointment indicates flaws in the salve or problems that come with the cure?

Or am I missing something? Is it really a play on words to say the same thing but use another word? I thought a Play on words would use the same word to say something different... does it go both ways?

~Thadeus
 
For reference, here is the opinion piece
The Flaws in the Ointment

I believe it is the author's intention to underscore her opinion and belief the policies she's discussing are fundamentally flawed, not just complicated by legal requirements, but fundamentally flawed. Because of that, I think her choice of title is an intentionally play on words.

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Wait, I thought the piece was about sports (presumably the Yankees?)

Thadeus said:
OK, so I'm reading a sports writer who states that there were "flaws in the ointment", and I think, "silly, silly man".

I would imagine that CC is correct that it is an intential switch of words. If its about the Yankees, without having read the piece, I would assume (which makes a donkey out of u and me) the article is centered on the Yankees spending big bucks to 'heal' their lineup but only getting problems (such as Randy Johnson falling apart, Carl Pavano doing everything wrong, buying overpriced underproducers like Bobby Abreu or fading stars like Gary Sheffield or guys who can never live up the money like Alex Rodriguez) or 'flaws'.

Essentially trying to sooth the problem added more...

Thadeus... any chance you can point to the article in question? Or give a brief summary of it?
 
Thadeus said:
Only 92 hits, but the very first one is an article actually titled "Flaws in the Ointment" from the UPI.
To clear up any misunderstanding, my comments are related to that UPI article, and a link to that article is in my previous post.

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Let us flee!" said the Fly,
"Let us fly!" said the Flea.
So the Flea and the Fly flew
Through a flaw in the flue.

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It should be
That's the fly in the ointment.
If you want to misquote, say
That's the snag in the ointment.

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I rather like Skip's reference to basebawl...

Leaving runners stranded is inhairent to the game (thus leading to tickets being "scalped"); the infield Fly rules, so outfielders don't need ointment. After all, flies are still kinda Wrigley even after you catch them...

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