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Weird ping issue.

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im going to try to explain this without doing a ton of Sh runs.

I got a lab im working on right now which has 2 routers and 2 switches. Routers are running back to back frame-relay. Literally everything communicates with everything else. I can ping from the switch on one one end of the network to the switch on the other. I have one computer connected to the lab right now on one switch and im trying to get this computer to communicate with the serial connection of the router that its connected to. The computer can ping the Ethernet IP on the router but cannot ping the serial connection IP. Any ideas? ive been tearing my hair out on this one because they USED to ping meaning i probably missed something small and cant catch it.

heres the routers Show Run:

Building configuration...

Current configuration : 861 bytes
!
version 12.2
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname SynoRouter1
!
enable secret 5 $1$uSUx$N4b7Hhjv3bXQLfB1l39Qw.
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
no ip domain-lookup
ip domain-name synonix.com
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0/0
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
half-duplex
!
interface Serial0/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial0/1
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
no keepalive
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial0/1.1 point-to-point
ip address 200.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
frame-relay interface-dlci 101
!
router rip
version 2
network 192.168.1.0
network 200.1.1.0
!
ip classless
no ip http server
no ip pim bidir-enable
!
!
line con 0
privilege level 15
password 7 061516701F1D5E170A
logging synchronous
login
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
password 7 13160E43585F532424
login
!
end
 
Without seeing the rest of your lab config or a network topology the only thing I can see wrong here is the frame relay switch should be doing the clocking as the dce device not your router. That is assuming your lab setup is PC1-->Switch1-->Router1-->FRS<--Router2<--Switch2.

Do a show frame-relay pvc to see the status of your virtual circuits.
 
your topology is correct. Im at work right now so ill add the pvc when i get home. Why should the switch be doing the clocking instead of the router?
 
That is not the topology---Vic---NO frame switch, just 2 routers back to back frame acting as the frame switch, I think.

This will not work without a third router in between acting as a frame switch---you must make the 2 routers simple PPP links, DCE doing clocking, and also, make the ethernet interface full duplex (assuming these are 2610's).

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tim@tim-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install windows
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package windows...Thank Goodness!
 
i apologise, your right burt. there is no FRS in the middle.

PC1-->Switch1-->Router1-- B2B Frame Relay over Serial --Router2<--Switch2

i MIGHT have switched around the DCE DTE cables back when i was rearranging the lab on a rack. and if i flip flopped the connection and the clock is on the wrong side that MIGHT be why the computer dosent ping but... i mean that kinda makes no sense because i can ping from switch 1 to router 2 no problem.
 
You will need a third router to act as the frame relay switch for this type of lab, just as Burt mentioned.
 
thats fine n all with the 3rd router but i should still be able to ping the outside IP of the router on that network from my computer. There is no frame relay involved in that request. its been done before with this setup and now i cant. as far as i can recall i changed nothing except when moving equipment.

PC1: 192.168.1.3/24 conected to fe0/2
Switch1: Vlan1 ip 192.168.1.1/24
Router1: inside eth0/0 192.168.1.2/24 connected to fe0/24 on switch. Outside 200.1.1.1/24

Router2: inside 192.168.2.2/24 connected to fe0/24 on switch2. Outside 200.1.1.2/24
Switch2: eventually ging to use as a loopback due to the fact i dont have any more PC's to use right now.

pc1 can ping only up to 192.168.1.2 not 200.1.1.1
Switch1 can ping everything on the network including the other side. UGH! makes no sense.

i doubt having a 3rd router installed will make pc1 able to ping 200.1.1.1

though i am in the market for a router that has SDM so ill probably have one soon enough.

PS. burt they are 2610's good guess :D
 
With the setup you currently have, the encapsulation you are using is wrong without a frs. You can use PPP or default (HDLC).
Do a no encapsulation frame-relay on se0/1 on both routers and ensure the router with the dce end has clock rate set.
Try this and it should be good.
 
thnx vic will try when i get home.
 
Back to back FR will work fine without the intermediary switch. You need no keepalive on both sides. The gotcha is you must use the same DLCI on both sides of the circuit since you're disabling LMI on the b2b scenario.
 
Oh yeah, that's right...whoops...:) Been a while...

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tim@tim-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install windows
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package windows...Thank Goodness!
 
OK heres the SH run for both switches.

R1:

Building configuration...

Current configuration : 955 bytes
!
version 12.2
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname SynoRouter1
!
enable secret 5 $1$uSUx$N4b7Hhjv3bXQLfB1l39Qw.
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
no ip domain-lookup
ip domain-name synonix.com
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0/0
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
full-duplex
!
interface Serial0/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial0/1
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
no keepalive
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial0/1.1 point-to-point
ip address 200.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 101
!
router rip
version 2
network 192.168.1.0
network 200.1.1.0
!
ip classless
no ip http server
ip pim bidir-enable
!
!
line con 0
privilege level 15
password 7 061516701F1D5E170A
logging synchronous
login
transport output none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
password 7 13160E43585F532424
login
transport input pad v120 telnet rlogin udptn mop
!
no scheduler allocate
end



R2:

Building configuration...

Current configuration : 1398 bytes
!
version 12.3
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname SynoRouter2
!
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
!
enable secret 5 $1$TQpe$sMDDNC3zBGGOLw0hHtVMr0
!
no aaa new-model
ip subnet-zero
ip cef
!
!
!
no ip domain lookup
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0/0
ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0
half-duplex
!
interface Ethernet0/0.1
!
interface Serial0/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial0/1
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
no keepalive
!
interface Serial0/1.1 point-to-point
ip address 200.1.1.2 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 101
!
router rip
version 2
network 192.168.3.0
network 200.1.1.0
!
ip classless
no ip http server
!
!
line con 0
exec-timeout 30 0
password 7 02151D0A5855582F43
logging synchronous
login
refuse-message
line aux 0
line vty 0 1
exec-timeout 20 0
privilege level 14
password 7 0832551F5A4A52191D
logging synchronous
login
transport input all
line vty 2 4
exec-timeout 20 0
password 7 14040B5A5F577D252B
logging synchronous
login
transport input all
!
!
end

DLCI = 101 on both

No shut down on both

made sure the DCE is connected to the clocking router (r1)

im just out of ideas. i have NO CLUE how to explain this one. its like the router stops forwarding the packet the computer sent after it hits the routers Eth port on the router.

i mean i referred to this guide to get it all working and it did work.


now im just crippled with this ping issue.
 
On both Routers 1 and 2 post
sh int eth0/0 and sh int se0/1.1
Also ensure PC1 has the right GW and SM.
if it is connected to switch 1 and router1 is connected to switch1 and all swichport are in default vlan 1 then the ip configuration on your PC1 should be as below.

ip 192.168.1.3
sm 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.2
 
Do you have a default route defined? The most common issue with a device behind a switch and not being able to ping past the directly connected router on the switch is no default route or lack of a complete route table.
 
Sorry for the late response. Was quite busy :D

here you go:

Router1: sh int eth0/0
Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0005.32ae.1ec0 (bia 0005.32ae.1ec0)
Internet address is 192.168.1.2/24
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
Queueing strategy: fifo
Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
5 minute input rate 1000 bits/sec, 2 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 1000 bits/sec, 2 packets/sec
232 packets input, 15939 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 17 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
0 input packets with dribble condition detected
211 packets output, 15073 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 3 interface resets
0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

Router1:

sh int s0/1.1
Serial0/1.1 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is PowerQUICC Serial
Internet address is 200.1.1.1/30
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 128 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY


Router2:

sh int eth0/0
Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0007.eb8a.cfe0 (bia 0007.eb8a.cfe0)
Internet address is 192.168.3.1/24
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
Last input 00:00:48, output 00:00:06, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
Queueing strategy: fifo
Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
9 packets input, 3609 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 9 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
0 input packets with dribble condition detected
105 packets output, 14477 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 3 interface resets
0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out


sh int s0/1.1
Serial0/1.1 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is PowerQUICC Serial
Internet address is 200.1.1.2/30
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 128 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY



And yes vicon thats what my NIC is set for on the computer.
 
SynoRouter2#sh controll int s0/1
SynoRouter2#sh ip route
SynoRouter2#sh frame-relay pvc
SynoRouter2#sh frame-relay map

Also do the same for R1

Post this info...

Also, what can ping what?
1.pc1---SW1---R1------R2---SW2---pc2

Can pc1 ping R1's serial interface?
Can pc2 ping R2's serial interface?
If not...
Can pc1 ping R1 ethernet interface?
Can pc2 ping R2 ethernet interface?
If not, fix the obvious problem(s).

If all these are successful, then try and ping from pc1 to R2 serial, then ethernet interfaces, then from pc2 to R1 serial then ethernet interface. Post the results of the pings FIRST, then the results of the show commands...

/

tim@tim-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install windows
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package windows...Thank Goodness!
 
There isnt a pc2 yet because i dont have another ethernet port to use. all switches and routers can communicate on every port. The only thing that dosent is PC1 to router1's serial IP and obviously anything beyond it. Note that it does ping to the router1's ethernet interface.

Heres requested info! thnx for the help :D

SynoRouter1#sh ip route


Gateway of last resort is not set

200.1.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C 200.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial0/1.1
C 192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
R 192.168.3.0/24 [120/1] via 200.1.1.2, 00:00:05, Serial0/1.1

SynoRouter1# show frame-relay pvc

PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)

Active Inactive Deleted Static
Local 0 0 0 1
Switched 0 0 0 0
Unused 0 0 0 0

DLCI = 101, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = STATIC, INTERFACE = Serial0/1.1

input pkts 45 output pkts 46 in bytes 6975
out bytes 6496 dropped pkts 0 in FECN pkts 0
in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 44 out bcast bytes 6384
pvc create time 00:13:05, last time pvc status changed 00:12:33

SynoRouter1#sh frame-relay map
Serial0/1.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 101(0x65,0x1850), broadcast

SynoRouter2#sh controllers s0/1
Interface Serial0/1
Hardware is PowerQUICC MPC860
DTE V.35 TX and RX clocks detected.
idb at 0x81A4510C, driver data structure at 0x81A47AE0
SCC Registers:
General [GSMR]=0x2:0x00000030, Protocol-specific [PSMR]=0x8
Events [SCCE]=0x0000, Mask [SCCM]=0x001F, Status [SCCS]=0x06
Transmit on Demand [TODR]=0x0, Data Sync [DSR]=0x7E7E
Interrupt Registers:
Config [CICR]=0x00367F80, Pending [CIPR]=0x04000004
Mask [CIMR]=0x08200002, In-srv [CISR]=0x00000000
Command register [CR]=0x6C0
Port A [PADIR]=0x0100, [PAPAR]=0xFFFF
[PAODR]=0x0000, [PADAT]=0xFEFF
Port B [PBDIR]=0x09C0F, [PBPAR]=0x0100E
[PBODR]=0x00000, [PBDAT]=0x37BBD
Port C [PCDIR]=0x00C, [PCPAR]=0x000
[PCSO]=0x830, [PCDAT]=0x3F0, [PCINT]=0x00F
Receive Ring
rmd(68012A70): status 9000 length 3A address 2551F64
rmd(68012A78): status B000 length 12F address 25518E4
Transmit Ring
tmd(68012B30): status 5C00 length 38 address 25676B4
tmd(68012B38): status 5C00 length 161 address 2404EF4
tmd(68012B40): status 5C00 length 38 address 2567CF4
tmd(68012B48): status 5C00 length 38 address 2568974
tmd(68012B50): status 5C00 length 161 address 2406394
tmd(68012B58): status 5C00 length 38 address 2402334
tmd(68012B60): status 5C00 length 38 address 2568654
tmd(68012B68): status 5C00 length 38 address 2568C94
tmd(68012B70): status 5C00 length 161 address 2578734
tmd(68012B78): status 5C00 length 38 address 2402654
tmd(68012B80): status 5C00 length 38 address 2402C94
tmd(68012B88): status 5C00 length 161 address 2579BD4
tmd(68012B90): status 5C00 length 38 address 24035F4
tmd(68012B98): status 5C00 length 38 address 2404594
tmd(68012BA0): status 5C00 length 161 address 257B074
tmd(68012BA8): status 7C00 length 38 address 24048B4

tx_limited=1(2)

SCC GENERAL PARAMETER RAM (at 0x68013F00)
Rx BD Base [RBASE]=0x2A70, Fn Code [RFCR]=0x18
Tx BD Base [TBASE]=0x2B30, Fn Code [TFCR]=0x18
Max Rx Buff Len [MRBLR]=1548
Rx State [RSTATE]=0x18008440, BD Ptr [RBPTR]=0x2A78
Tx State [TSTATE]=0x18000548, BD Ptr [TBPTR]=0x2B60

SCC HDLC PARAMETER RAM (at 0x68013F38)
CRC Preset [C_PRES]=0xFFFF, Mask [C_MASK]=0xF0B8
Errors: CRC [CRCEC]=0, Aborts [ABTSC]=0, Discards [DISFC]=0
Nonmatch Addr Cntr [NMARC]=0
Retry Count [RETRC]=0
Max Frame Length [MFLR]=1608
Rx Int Threshold [RFTHR]=0, Frame Cnt [RFCNT]=65485
User-defined Address 0000/0000/0000/0000
User-defined Address Mask 0x0000


buffer size 1524

PowerQUICC SCC specific errors:
0 input aborts on receiving flag sequence
0 throttles, 0 enables
0 overruns
0 transmitter underruns
0 transmitter CTS losts
0 aborted short frames

SynoRouter2#sh ip route

Gateway of last resort is not set

200.1.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C 200.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial0/1.1
R 192.168.1.0/24 [120/1] via 200.1.1.1, 00:00:08, Serial0/1.1
C 192.168.3.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0

SynoRouter2#sh frame-relay pvc

PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)

Active Inactive Deleted Static
Local 0 0 0 1
Switched 0 0 0 0
Unused 0 0 0 0

DLCI = 101, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = STATIC, INTERFACE = Serial0/1.1

input pkts 55 output pkts 57 in bytes 7245
out bytes 8835 dropped pkts 0 in pkts dropped 0
out pkts dropped 0 out bytes dropped 0
in FECN pkts 0 in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0
out BECN pkts 0 in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 57 out bcast bytes 8835
5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
pvc create time 00:16:35, last time pvc status changed 00:16:35

SynoRouter2#sh frame-relay map
Serial0/1.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 101(0x65,0x1850), broadcast
 
Put no auto-summary under router rip. Then try the pings again. They should work.
 
Added the command. Didn't help. I think I'm going to flash the lab and start fresh. i got my ICND coming up on June 11th so i gotta just reinforce what i know and stop worrying about some BS like this. Its gotta be something with the computer it makes no sense that everything but the pc can communicate over the whole network.
 
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