Web page loading slow 2

[dleggett]

When trying to access a web site that I have been working on for a friend, it is coming up about 2 minutes after I type in the name. Other pages that I am accessing are pulling up like they should. Not sure what is going wrong in there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[kjv1611]

Well, hopefully you got your goat back, Dan. I mean, goats can be expensive.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me

 

[dleggett]

Everyone, I have tried removing the counter and this did not make any differance.

 

[spamjim]

If a user wants to display a picture, and the picture they have is a BMP, and they don't know how to (or why they should) convert it, when they put it on their page, and it actually displays, then that is the desired result.

If they are aimlessly placing a graphic without the understanding of how or why they should convert it, how do you infer they really have the desire to use BMP for such a desired result? It is simply ignorance, not choice for a desired result, that slaps a BMP file on a web page.

Seriously, we're arguing semantics but we are all agreeing that this 2MB BMP file does not belong on this page. Talk about an invalid discussion.

 

[spamjim]

Everyone, I have tried removing the counter and this did not make any differance.

I still see a counter and I still see a bunch of useless javascript appended to the end of your HTML. Take a look at the source HTML in your browser, not your web editor. You are not the author of the javascript. The server is appending it.

You probably need another server that does not append this junk.

 

[traingamer]

Have you tried contacting Yahoo?

I have no problems loading any of the images, even as large as they are; but the site itself will not even display in my browser (IE6) after several minutes.

Greg
People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. Kierkegaard

 

[dleggett]

Jim,

Would you mind checking it? I am still unable to pull it up.

 

[dleggett]

Traingamer,

That is problem that I am having. It takes forever and two months, even on a T1 line.

 

[dleggett]

Traingamer, would you mind trying again? I just removed the javascript and the hitcounter. It seems to be pulling up now.

 

[spamjim]

Just refreshed again. Much better. Only one instance of that server-appended javascript now appears. There were about 8 before you cleaned it up.

Now you can get to those oversized graphics by editing them in a graphics program ...and cleaning up the HTML based on the recommendations presented when you validate the page.

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.firstflighthomeinspection.com/

 

[dleggett]

Ok, I will give that a go a little later tonight. I appreciate everyone's help and opinions. This will give me something to present to the owner of the site. Will post results later on tonight. Thanks again.

 

[kjv1611]

dlegget,

If you don't have any readily available programs, here are a couple of freebies that do an Okay job to get the job done:

Gimp
and
Picasa 3 by Google

I use Picasa fairly often to resize images (dimension-wise), and I think it will allow you to save to different formats.

I know Gimp will allow that. Picasa may be the easiest program to do this with.

Of course Photoshop general gives the best results - but the others should be good enough.... Well, Photoshop also has batch edits available, in case you had LOTS of images to take care of, and you needed to make the same changes.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me

 

[traingamer]

Yep, it's very fast now even with those images.

Another good (free) graphics program is Irfanview - I've used it for many years to crop and resize images.



Greg
People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. Kierkegaard

 

[trollacious]

And Irfanview opens quickly. I can have it open and manipulate & save a couple graphics before GIMP gets all the way open on my computer.

One feature I really appreciate with Irfanview is being able to change the dimensions of the box around a selected area. If I don't get the box exactly right the first time, I can adjust it with the mouse without having to start over.

Lee

 

[kjv1611]

Yeah, the adjustable box dimensions for various changes is available in many programs - Photoshop, Gimp, Irfanview, I think Picasa 3 (though Picasa is not as advanced an editor - some of the simple things like resizing, etc are more easily done with Picasa).. and probably others.

I personally prefer Irfanview for dealing with Icons on the rare occasion I just want to mess with those. Otherwise, so far, I perfer Gimp for editing, of the free programs.. and Picasa 3 (my opinion of course) is just a cool program to have for opening pictures - regardless of whether or not I use it for any editing. It's like having a fancy flash-based website built into your computer for viewing pictures.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me

 

[kjv1611]

Oh, another free image program which I like to always have around is Xnview. It's pretty good. It's not as "sharp" as Picasa, but it has LOTS of features and options. I don't recall how much pure editing you can do with it, but you can do all sorts of things with your pictures with it. I'm sure it also has an image resizing option as well... of course, part of what you want to do is resize the website images, probably for at least some of them, and then converting from bmp to jpg.

Really, either of those are simple tasks for modern programs. You should be able to do it with practically any program that offers any image editing. I mean, you can even just use MS Paint if you want - though it won't give you the best quality if you reduce the image resolution qualities, when compared with other image editors.

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"If to err is human, then I must be some kind of human!" -Me

 

[ChrisHunt]

I had to do some image editing on a friend's work PC without installing any new software, and with nothing better than Paint loaded there already.

She did have internet access though, so I just went to

http://www.pixlr.com/editor/

- quite a decent graphics program that runs in your browser. As long as you've got Flash installed (which you probably have), nothing needs to be downloaded or installed.

It won't replace trusty old Paint Shop Pro on my desktop, but it's a useful link in a tight spot.

-- Chris Hunt
Webmaster & Tragedian
Extra Connections Ltd

 

[spamjim]

One thing to consider with all these options of image editors is optimizing file size. Ideal web design is simply not cropping/resizing pixel dimensions and converting from BMP.

GIMP and Photoshop offer a 'save for web' function that allows you to preview JPG images at various compression levels. You might also use these editors to reduce the number of colors in a GIF file to the least required to optimize file size. That CMI logo can be reduced to a dozen colors to produce a 4kb GIF file. That's 450 times smaller than the current image that uses 1.6 million colors.

 

[dleggett]

Thanks for the help everyone. I am sure that I will be back here sooner or later. I have another web page to work on as well. Will be mentioning to him about the picture and reducing it, just wanted to thank everyone for your help.