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w3c valid frameborders html & css 1

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Hi!
I have a question concerning frameborder attributes in html and css.

in html i know these attributes:
border="0" frameborder="0" framespacing="0"
but:
they are not w3c validated...
(the doctype i used is:<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC &quot;-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN&quot; &quot;)

Does anybody know valid attributes for the frame border?

2nd Question: what are these border attributes called in css?

Thanks in advance...
Stefan
 
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border=&quot;n&quot; or a number for the width

frameborder=&quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot;

When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.
 
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frameborder=&quot;no&quot; should have the same effort as frameborder=&quot;0&quot;

Where on that site can I find those definitions?

 
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It has the same effect, but &quot;n&quot; or &quot;no&quot; are the accepted definitions... I don't know why they felt they had to change what was working perfectly well.

W3C.org is a good place for the definitions, if you can wade through the tons of info.

When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.
 
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Hmm the validator doesn't like those definitions neither =(.
See the output:
This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Frameset!
Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser.

Line 14, column 36: there is no attribute &quot;BORDER&quot; (explain...).
<frameset cols=&quot;200,*&quot; border=&quot;n&quot; frameborder=&quot;no&quot; framespacing=&quot;0&quot;>
| ^
Line 14, column 52: there is no attribute &quot;FRAMEBORDER&quot; (explain...).
<frameset cols=&quot;200,*&quot; border=&quot;n&quot; frameborder=&quot;no&quot; framespacing=&quot;0&quot;>
| ^
Line 14, column 70: there is no attribute &quot;FRAMESPACING&quot; (explain...).
...00,*&quot; border=&quot;n&quot; frameborder=&quot;no&quot; framespacing=&quot;0&quot;>
| ^
The only thing i found was frameborder(if i remember correctly) as an attribute for the frame tag...not for the frameset tag but that doesn't do the job...
I'll try it again...

 
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Yes that's where the frameborder should stand in..., the frame tag...
netscape and other browsers only understand border & framespacing... so in order to display the site correctly in other browsers you need to take these attributes...(but sadly they are not valid &quot;HTML 4.01 Framset&quot; code.

I don't even know if you can specify those attributes in css... I'll tell you tomorrow...

good night...
stefan

 
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thanks clarkin, that works pretty good, but there is still a border left...
we're on the right way though =)
maybe somehow we can fix this through the css...

stay tuned results will be posted.

by the way those attributes(&quot;frameborder&quot; &quot;framespacing&quot; & &quot;border&quot;) are not valid but they do their job...

bye
stefan



 
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Well, you should get a valid result if you just use frameborder=&quot;no&quot; in every frames. But there is still problem with positioning when using NS, for example. At least Opera will show the page correctly.
 
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