VS 2005 and source control

[afroblanca]

Hello all,

I've got a small (3 person) shop, and we are in need of a source control solution. For the last few months, we've been using CVSNT along with the Jalindi Igloo plugin, and things just aren't working out. We're getting errors left and right, and it's really killing our productivity. We've tried a number of other plugins, such as PushOK, TamTam, and the plugin that comes with March Hare's CVS Suite, and they've all been either really buggy or really slow.

Perforce looks great, but it's way too expensive for us. Also, I know that Visual Studio Team Server has a CVS, but VSTS is also out of our price range.

We need a fast, bug-free CVS solution that integrates with Visual Studio 2005 for under $1000. Does such a thing exist?

Also, if, hypothetically, someone were to show up my office with bushels of cash and we were suddenly able to afford VSTS or Perforce, which one has the better CVS?

 

[jbenson001]

In my opinion, the Team Suite is way over rated and expensive and confusing to work with. How about trying Visual Source Safe?

JIm

 

[afroblanca]

Will Visual Source Safe work with VS 2005? I thought Visual Source Safe was made for VS 6.

 

[jbenson001]

There is a vaersion for VS2005. Visual SoureSafe 2005

 

[BoulderBum]

Visual Source Safe is on version 6, but it works (pretty nicely) with all versions of Visual Studio .NET/2005.

In fact, I used the same VSS for VS .NET 2003 (version 6d) as I did for VS .NET 2005 originally.

SourceSafe won't be hassle free, but it sounds like it might be just what you're looking for.

 

[BoulderBum]

PS - SQL Server 2005 also integrates with SourceSafe for saving scripts and stuff, though it's not as useful as the VS integration.

 

[ca8msm]

We use open source software from

http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/

and we've had no problems at all with it on either 2003 or 2005 applications. It can also be used for any other file-based applications.


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[chrissie1]

Yep tortoisesvn is good. You should even use it when working on a project by yourself.

Christiaan Baes
Belgium

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[afroblanca]

Thank you for your answers. It sounds like tortoisesvn and Visual Source Safe are worth checking out.

Here's my question - how well do these applications integrate with Visual Studio 2005? Can you do all of your check-ins and check-outs through VS2005, or do you need to use an external program? How fast are these applications when used through VS 2005?

Reason I ask - the biggest problem we've had thus far with WINCVS has been with VS 2005 integration. WINCVS itself seems to work just fine - it's just that the plugins to integrate it with VS2005 are either really slow or realy buggy.

 

[ca8msm]

Tortoisesvn embeds itself into the windows shell so it can be used for any type of application that is in a folder via the right-click menu. All you do is right click a folder in windows explorer and select Commit or Update.


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[BoulderBum]

Visual Source Safe integrates with Visual Studio itself (it has its own toolbar) so you can right-click objects to compare with older versions, check in files, etc.

All project files you add to a solution will be automatically be added to source control if the solution itself is under source control and, perhaps the best thing, check-out of a file happens automatically when you pull it up and start typing.

Most of the time, you don't even realize you're connected to SourceSafe unless someone has something you need checked out.

Really, though I haven't used any other source control system so I can't speak of relative advantages over other products.

 

[Smeat]

I've not used any other source contorl product either but have used source safe for the last few years and would recommend it as the tool of choice for VS IDE integration.

Smeat

 

[afroblanca]

Thanks to everybody for your help. We tried a number of cheap, free, and opensource packages, but they all proved to be too much of a hassle. In the end, we were able to purchase Perforce, which is an excellent package and works like a charm. They even have a web-based and mac-based client.

As much as we wanted to cut costs, the amount of time we would spend getting any of the free or cheap options to work would negate any cash savings.

 

[ca8msm]

Thanks for coming back with your experiences and the solution you went with.

However, I am surprised you had hassles setting up the free tortoisesvn application. I've just downloaded, installed and added a project to it in under 10 minutes and it's now integrated into Windows for any project that i use (i.e. I can use it for PHP, ASP, ASP.NET etc).

If anyone future reader of this post does run into any issues with it, there is a forum (forum1556) that can help you with them.


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