Vista Home cannot obtain IP Address 1

[exel2000]

Hello, for some reason, Vista Home will not obtain an IP address from our Windows 2003 DHCP server. The business edition works fine. The only information I can find is specific to non-MS DHCP servers and I tried adding the registry entry it mentioned anyways just for kicks. This applies to wired or wireless connections. Has anyone seen anything similar and been able to correct it? Other than assigning a static IP anyways? Thanx!

 

[StNixon]

This may be a long shot, but check the settings for DHCP on the 2003 box. Is it AD integrated? It may not be accepting DHCP requests from "unauthorized" computers.

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[exel2000]

Hmmm, I'll check that, but this has not been an issue on any other version of Windows. But at this point, I'm willing to try anything!

 

[exel2000]

Ok, now I'm even more confused. We bought two copies of Vista Home, basic and Premium. We installed them on two different computers, both work perfectly fine! So, any new computer that has Vista pre-installed on it, seems to have this issue. And I mean all of them. I guess our next step is to buy a computer off the shelf somewhere and try to reproduce the problem! ARRRRRRGh!

 

[linney]

Can you compare both machines (types) processes and see any difference between whats running or loading on one type and what's on the other?

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[exel2000]

Our plan is to do just that, compare to two, but we don't have a non-working system on a regular basis.

 

[smah]

I hate to add to this thread, because it won't be helpful - but here it is anyway:

I just set up 5 identical Vista Business systems with only wired connections. 4 out of 5 worked out of the box flawlessly. The fifth exhibits the behavior above - local network access flawless & no internet. Once statically assigned, it's fine.

 

[postrand]

There is an issue with Vista obtaining an IP address. Microsoft has a couple articles about it. Try these and see if it helps.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152

 

[exel2000]

Yeah, I have read those over and they do not seem to apply to this situation as we are using Windows 2003 Sever as our DHCP and we've checked the power save options.

 

[exel2000]

ARRRRRgh! We are still banging our heads against the wall on this. We bought on off the shelf Toshiba, and it just works with no issues. We did however manage to make it not work by messing with the Network discovery options. We turn it on, it breaks, we turn it off, it works. We try this on other systems that are not working, and we get different results. I managed to get one system working for about ten minutes in safemode, but then it quits working again. It seems to be occurring with pretty much any flavor of off the shelve purchased Vista laptops.

 

[linney]

These are probably not relevant, but desperate times call for desperate solutions, I only advise that you read the threads and if you want to experiment with NTLM versions, do so in a test environment.

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[exel2000]

Someone shoot me. We just changed our wireless access points to assign ip addressses thinking this would correct the problem since it did on a test machine. On our test machine, we cannot get it to fail in this configuration. If we turn off DHCP on the access point, we can make it fail, and fix it consistently by toggling network discovery. We've got an HP laptop with Vista on it and sure enough, it fails to work. This is unreal. I haven't been this frustrated since Windows ME!