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VFP on Windows 10 - Updated - Success
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In spite of the fact that we have to keep up with what our customers/clients may want......
An interesting (if not un-expected) article from ComputerWorld
Among other things, the article says:
An interesting (if not un-expected) article from ComputerWorld
Among other things, the article says:
ComputerWorld said:
Mike Lewis
Programmer
Yes, it would be interesting to know the answers to these questions - especially regarding how well VFP will run on it.
But you would have to have been pretty lively to have got the new version already. The free download is only available from today, and there will be a few million people in the queue for it. And I believe the retail packs won't be available for a little while yet. Still ....
Personally, I'm going to wait a few weeks for the dust to settle.
One thing I definitely won't like is that fact that software updates will now be mandatory (at least, for users other than of the professional edition). I've nothing against software updates, of course, but I prefer to choose my own time and place for downloading and installing them.
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Visual FoxPro articles, tips and downloads
But you would have to have been pretty lively to have got the new version already. The free download is only available from today, and there will be a few million people in the queue for it. And I believe the retail packs won't be available for a little while yet. Still ....
Personally, I'm going to wait a few weeks for the dust to settle.
One thing I definitely won't like is that fact that software updates will now be mandatory (at least, for users other than of the professional edition). I've nothing against software updates, of course, but I prefer to choose my own time and place for downloading and installing them.
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Visual FoxPro articles, tips and downloads
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Update:
One of our team members, got Windows 10 installed on his desktop and installed our POS system, which is VFP 9 sp2, SQL 2012 backend.
We use:
xfrx reports
wwHTTP from west-wind
wwSQL class from west-wind
IE automation (internetexplorer.application)
IE automation using _webbrowser active-x
wwDotNetBridge with C# to communicate with API using IE certificates and API / SOAP
All worked flawlessly and seemed faster than the Windows 7 OS he was running.
We are very happy to see VFP 9 sp2 production POS runs awesome on windows 10.
Ez Logic
Michigan
One of our team members, got Windows 10 installed on his desktop and installed our POS system, which is VFP 9 sp2, SQL 2012 backend.
We use:
xfrx reports
wwHTTP from west-wind
wwSQL class from west-wind
IE automation (internetexplorer.application)
IE automation using _webbrowser active-x
wwDotNetBridge with C# to communicate with API using IE certificates and API / SOAP
All worked flawlessly and seemed faster than the Windows 7 OS he was running.
We are very happy to see VFP 9 sp2 production POS runs awesome on windows 10.
Ez Logic
Michigan
Dan Olsson
Programmer
Well, since W10 basically is not much more than W8.2 it should...
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Mike Lewis
Programmer
That's good news, Ez. Thanks for reporting it.
I take your point about IE Automation. I was curious to know how well that would be supported, given that IE itself is not present in Windows 10 (at least, the user interface isn't; presumably, the underlying COM components are still available).
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Visual FoxPro articles, tips and downloads
I take your point about IE Automation. I was curious to know how well that would be supported, given that IE itself is not present in Windows 10 (at least, the user interface isn't; presumably, the underlying COM components are still available).
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Visual FoxPro articles, tips and downloads
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Well, from what I am seeing, Windows 10 is Malware on steroids. After reading the 45 pages of Privacy Statement and Services Agreements, I am mortified, completely disgusted at Microsoft. One has to go through hoops to opt-out of *some* the spying. These items should be an opt-in instead. There are other Group Policy and registry settings that take care of *some* other stuff.
The tragic thing about this is that MOST users are not savvy enough to realize what Microsoft is doing. Microsoft has sold all of us out.
What bothers me more is that VFP developers are more concerned about if their apps will run on Windows 10, rather than discuss the horrid privacy violations. Shame on all of you!
The tragic thing about this is that MOST users are not savvy enough to realize what Microsoft is doing. Microsoft has sold all of us out.
What bothers me more is that VFP developers are more concerned about if their apps will run on Windows 10, rather than discuss the horrid privacy violations. Shame on all of you!
vgulielmus
Programmer
I'm not defending Microsoft, but I suppose Android or various versions of Unix / Linux do similar things.
The money must come somehow...
Respectfully,
Vilhelm-Ion Praisach
Resita, Romania
The money must come somehow...
Respectfully,
Vilhelm-Ion Praisach
Resita, Romania
vgulielmus
Programmer
Some advices
Respectfully,
Vilhelm-Ion Praisach
Resita, Romania
Respectfully,
Vilhelm-Ion Praisach
Resita, Romania
I've been running Win10 for nearly a year and a half, through all the tech previews (I'm a beta tester for Microsoft), and had 0 issues with running VFP on it. I'm on the current commercial release of 10, took it through the upgrade, and everything worked fine on VFP. So no issues that I see. And I'm running 64bit Version of Win10 an a pretty advanced bit of hardware.
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."![[hammer]](/data/assets/smilies/hammer.gif "[hammer] [hammer]")
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
Just FYI, that "article" about Win10 is horrible... filled with assertions that simply are ignorant.
There is 0 reason to avoid Windows 10, unless you have some very obscure piece of hardware that the maker takes ages to release a new driver for... and that said, if their Win8 driver doesn't work on Win10, then they're developing their drivers wrong to start with... I've been using Win10 since its earliest betas, and had 0 problems with it, and I'm not running it on some outdated horrible box. (Generally speaking, the more "recent" your hardware is, the greater risk you have of a new OS not working well with it.) And seriously, the big "complaint" in this article is that a specific 2 finger touchpad doesn't work... get a mouse! Or more likely, just get an updated driver...
I found the builds running up to Win10 release to be MORE stable than other versions of Windows. Sure a few features evolve some during that time, but MS are not "Mom and pop software shop". The testing that is done on these releases is FAR greater than any new piece of software that you install on your machine. The OS is no more risk than the apps running on it. To "wait for years" is just an exercise in sitting in fear while everything else passes you by. Don't listen to that article. It's terrible.
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
There is 0 reason to avoid Windows 10, unless you have some very obscure piece of hardware that the maker takes ages to release a new driver for... and that said, if their Win8 driver doesn't work on Win10, then they're developing their drivers wrong to start with... I've been using Win10 since its earliest betas, and had 0 problems with it, and I'm not running it on some outdated horrible box. (Generally speaking, the more "recent" your hardware is, the greater risk you have of a new OS not working well with it.) And seriously, the big "complaint" in this article is that a specific 2 finger touchpad doesn't work... get a mouse! Or more likely, just get an updated driver...
I found the builds running up to Win10 release to be MORE stable than other versions of Windows. Sure a few features evolve some during that time, but MS are not "Mom and pop software shop". The testing that is done on these releases is FAR greater than any new piece of software that you install on your machine. The OS is no more risk than the apps running on it. To "wait for years" is just an exercise in sitting in fear while everything else passes you by. Don't listen to that article. It's terrible.
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
Olaf Doschke
Programmer
I first got a message for availability on saturday. The upgrade failed, looking into update history the upgrade already failed for the last week, sometimes with several tries per day silently, without any information coming up.
MS did a bad job for me, as it seems the download was repeated every time even in case it was complete already. Why?
I manually edited C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download and the next time the upgrade began it worked up to telling me a TPM software needed to be deinstalled. The previous assistant run testing the hard- and software didn't mention any problem. The deinstallation processs of the TPM software, which was started from the Windows upgrade, failed needing a CD, which made the whole upgrade fail once more. Manually deinstalling the TPM platform was not needing the original CD and now the upgrade can happen one more time.
If that's the reason so many need to wait for the download, because in case of problems it restarts, then it's no wonder why some still wait for their download. What's up with the CDN? Whats up with the windows update mechanism? This is really not what I would expect from a company having billions of experiences with updates.
Bye, Olaf.
MS did a bad job for me, as it seems the download was repeated every time even in case it was complete already. Why?
I manually edited C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download and the next time the upgrade began it worked up to telling me a TPM software needed to be deinstalled. The previous assistant run testing the hard- and software didn't mention any problem. The deinstallation processs of the TPM software, which was started from the Windows upgrade, failed needing a CD, which made the whole upgrade fail once more. Manually deinstalling the TPM platform was not needing the original CD and now the upgrade can happen one more time.
If that's the reason so many need to wait for the download, because in case of problems it restarts, then it's no wonder why some still wait for their download. What's up with the CDN? Whats up with the windows update mechanism? This is really not what I would expect from a company having billions of experiences with updates.
Bye, Olaf.
I think you are talking about the automatic upgrade to Win10?
I have done it twice now. The biggest problem is: Users are impatient. They thrash during the middle of it, reboot, interrupt the process. It's best to Download the full update, then install it. Or, just go to MS and download the full image of the file (it's available), and just install it from there, rather than using "Windows Update" to do it. I've done it both ways, but the "update" path, you have to be patient, even on a fast connection.
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
I have done it twice now. The biggest problem is: Users are impatient. They thrash during the middle of it, reboot, interrupt the process. It's best to Download the full update, then install it. Or, just go to MS and download the full image of the file (it's available), and just install it from there, rather than using "Windows Update" to do it. I've done it both ways, but the "update" path, you have to be patient, even on a fast connection.
Best Regards,
Scott
ATS, CDCE, CTIA, CTDC
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
Scott24x7 - You should really remove your hammering icon in your signature. That's Albert Einstein you are quoting and he would never approve of your hammering your fellow forum members constantly while they are trying to make sense of a thread.
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