i am trying to change user profiles so that the user can specify the password they want. I have a nt 4 pdc and bdc. the current user profile settings are - "pass never expires", a few have - "user cannot change pass" When i clear everything out and only select "user must change pass at nest logon" the user is prompted to change password but then when they try to enter it it says they do not have permission to change the password. What's going on here? The clients are running win2k. Thanks for the help