Two HDD's and os not recognising cd-rom drive...

[spyder850]

Hey guys, i have reciently purchased an IDE PCI card for my new Dell Dimension E521, i wanted to be able to use my 30GB hdd in my new machine, so i installed the IDE PCI card and installed the hdd REFORMATTED (i reformatted it with my old computer...) into my new machine. I am using OSL2000 as my program that prompts me for which drive to boot up from.

problem:

My new drive doesnt detect a cd rom drive is present. so therefore, if i wanted to even use a cd to install the drivers, there "is no cd rom drive detected" to even install drivers from. My video drivers, my ethernet controllers, all messed up. theres a HUGE list of peripherals that have exclamation marks in my Device Manager.

questions:
: Is it even possible to do this? will i ever be able to dual boot two drives with my IDE PCI card?

: What if i use my windows XP media center cd on that drive, will it allow me to install two copies of the same cd on another drive, but in the same machine?

I hope ive been clear on the matter at hand...and any way i can clear it up for any of you let me know!


any help or suggestions would be apprieciated.

Thanks,
Spyder

 

[wolluf]

If you mean that you are booting from your old drive in your new machine - then you've been lucky it even booted at all (because of the hardware differences). As it does, you now need to install the drivers for the new machine on your old installation. As you've noted it doesn't even detect CD drive, I suggest you first run a repair reinstall, with just your old drive connected (ie, disconnect any hard drives that came with your new machine):-

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341

(use option 2)

That should hopefully get the CD drives sorted out.

I did try OSL2000 some years ago, but had problems with it corrupting the mbr. I know the mechanisms it used were changed, but don't know what they are - or if running a repair reinstall will affect it (I use

http://www.boot-us.com

when I dual boot nowadays)

 

[spyder850]

aah there in lies the prob my man...


i had to reformat and use my emachines windows ME startup disk while my old drive was in my old computer, i took that sucker out, placed it in my new system, and it booted, it comes up as 640x480 resoloution...but it comes up!

now there in lies the problem because if i want to do a repair install like you suggested, and like the link that you gave me suggested, i need to put in a cd rom...but since im connecting this windows ME formatted and reinstalled drive bu a PCI IDE card, it doesnt see that i have a cd rom drive...

i tried even putting in my windows xp media center disk in, and booting from the cd, and unplugging my sata drive (power and data) and seeing if that worked...

it comes up windows xp installation...but then the screen comes up as "no hard disks detected on this system press F3 to quit..."

soooo thats the dealeo. even if i try to reinstall windows, (of any kind!) onto this drive, using anything but my old computer, it wont allow...even my old pc wont let me install any other os other than the windows ME that it came with...


a sad cruel situation...


i hope i have been more clear...


open to ANYTHING! thanks for your reply wolluf...much apprieciated sir.

 

[BadBigBen]

You will need to have the TEXTMODE drivers for the PCI-IDE card on a FLOPPY DISK, then when you boot from the XP CD at the very beginning it prompts (actually flashes by) for SATA/SCSI DRIVERS with F6 (at the bottom of the blue screen)... Hit F6, it may appear to do nothing, don't worry it will prompt later to insert the FLOPPY... voila, XP should now see the drive in question!

Ben

"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."

 

[gargoyle47]

How about listing what drives you have in your machine and what they are connected too.
What are the harddrives set to cable or M/S?

Primary ide cable
Secondary ide cable
Pci card primary cable
Pci card secondary cable

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[spyder850]

hey guys, a friend of mine gave me his old drive (partitioned windows xp pro and windows 2000, 40GB) effing score! so anyway, ive put the drive in my new machine, hooked it to the IDE PCI card, and my OSL boot manager picked it up! so i thought, grreat! well, i can see it now from my computer on my new computers drive, that i do have an E drive, so it IS recognising it, the downside is, when i select to boot from the 40GB drive instead of my original computers drive, it brings me to the window that asks me which os i would like to run (from that drive) and i select windows xp and it quickly flashes the bluu screen of death then reboots the machine...

same as if i try with the 2000 installation on the 40GB drive, only it stays on the BSOD and never reboots.


so how can i solve this problem? is it a driver issue with my PCI card? because i can see and access the drive on my primary drive, but i cannot boot to my secondary.


i dont know how clear i was with this one!

please let me know if im unclear...THANKS!


Spyder.

 

[wolluf]

spyder

when you move a hard drive with XP between machines, its a lottery whether it will boot or not (sometimes will boot, but is too corrupted to use as is, sometimes will boot and you can reinstall drivers ok, sometimes won't boot - blue screens. I think you've had 2 of those situations). The standard method of fixing it is a repair reinstall - as per earlier.

However, as Ben mentioned, for the XP install to see either SATA drives or IDE drives connected to PCI card, it normally needs to have additional drivers supplied during the install process. That's where pressing F6 at start of install comes in. You are later prompted for relevant drivers which you should have on a floppy. Once loaded, the install can see the hard drive in question and can continue with the repair. So, if the drive is SATA, you need SATA drivers (assuming onboard SATA, they'll be on the mobo install CD or mobo manufacturers site). If drive is IDE connected to PCI card (Promise?) - you'll need the drivers for that card - again should have come with it or available on manufacturer's site.


HTH

 

[spyder850]

Wolluf i have you to thank! i went to Sabrents website and found the zip file i needed, jerry riggeed a floppy in my machine, pressed F6 when it asked to install a SCSI or RAID controller, and boom i now have two HDDs with the same OS and i can dual boot them both with my OSL 2000.


thank you so much!



much apprieciated!




take care,
Spyder.