Two different software and sytem id's

[scanjet]

My customer bought a cs1000k from a broker and was told that the softwre was as follows. But after firing uo the system we got a different software and different system id.The broker says it is correct and will work fine. The actual software and system id are different and seem like it is fo a much bigger system than an option 11 cabinet will work with.

Original
Software Release & Issue 04.50w
Security ID 10294503
Auxilary ID 10294503
SUB TYPE Meridian 1 Cabinet
MODEL Cabinet
FEATURE SET NTSK01GC Premium Network Service
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Packages 0-2,4,5,7-14,16-21,23-29,32-56,58-64,67,70
-77,79-81,83,86-93,95,98-103,105,107-111,113-121,125,12
7,129,132,133,139-141,145-155,157-164,167,170,172-175,1
78-181,183-186,191,192,200,202-210,212,214-216,218,219,
222-225,229,233-235,240,242,243,245-247,249-251,253,254
,256,258,259,263,291,295-297,301,305-307,310-312,315,31
6,321,324,327-334,348,350,351,362,364,380-382,384-388,3
93,394,397-401,406,407
Extra Packages 57
REGION NA
TNS Level 2500
ACD DN 300
AST 1
MOPT 0
LTID 0
RAN Connections 0
RAN Routes 500
Music Connections 0
BRAND 2
ACD Agents 10
ANALOGUE TELEPHONES 16
ATTENDANT CONSOLES 2500
BRI DSL 150
CLASS TELEPHONES 0
DATA PORTS 2500
DIGITAL TELEPHONES 88
IP USERS 0
BASIC IP USERS 0
PHANTOM PORTS 2500
DECT USERS 0
DECT VISITORS 0
TRADITIONAL TRUNKS 2500
ITG ISDN TRUNKS 0
TMDI D-CHANNELS 64
SURVIVABILITY 0
PCA 0
H.323 ACCESS PORTS 0
SIP ACCESS PORTS 0
SIP CONVERGED DESKTOPS 0
SIP CTI TR87 0

VERSION 4021

System type is - Communication Server 1000E/CP PM
CP PM - Pentium M 1.4 GHz

IPMGs Registered: 0
IPMGs Unregistered: 0
IPMGs Configured/unregistered: 0

RELEASE 6
ISSUE 00 R +
IDLE_SET_DISPLAY NORTEL

IPMG TYPE CSP/SW MSP APP FPGA BOOT DBL1 DBL2

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Actual

REQ TID

TAPE ID:
LOADED 318831352


REQ slt

System type is - Communication Server 1000E/CP PM
CP PM - Pentium M 1.4 GHz

IPMGs Registered: 0
IPMGs Unregistered: 0
IPMGs Configured/unregistered: 0


TRADITIONAL TELEPHONES 144 LEFT 142 USED 2
DECT USERS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
IP USERS 174 LEFT 174 USED 0
BASIC IP USERS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
TEMPORARY IP USERS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
DECT VISITOR USER 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
ACD AGENTS 165 LEFT 165 USED 0
MOBILE EXTENSIONS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
TELEPHONY SERVICES 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
CONVERGED MOBILE USERS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
NORTEL SIP LINES 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
THIRD PARTY SIP LINES 0 LEFT 0 USED 0

PCA 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
ITG ISDN TRUNKS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
H.323 ACCESS PORTS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
AST 254 LEFT 254 USED 0
SIP CONVERGED DESKTOPS 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
SIP CTI TR87 0 LEFT 0 USED 0
SIP ACCESS PORTS 10 LEFT 10 USED 0
RAN CON 20 LEFT 20 USED 0
MUS CON 4 LEFT 4 USED 0

TNS 32760 LEFT 32758 USED 2
ACDN 24000 LEFT 24000 USED 0
AML 16 LEFT 16 USED 0
IDLE_SET_DISPLAY NORTEL
LTID 32760 LEFT 32760 USED 0
RAN RTE 512 LEFT 512 USED 0
ATTENDANT CONSOLES 32760 LEFT 32760 USED 0
BRI DSL 10000 LEFT 10000 USED 0
DATA PORTS 32760 LEFT 32760 USED 0
PHANTOM PORTS 32760 LEFT 32760 USED 0
TRADITIONAL TRUNKS 32760 LEFT 32760 USED 0
DCH 255 LEFT 255 USED 0




NT Corporate ID : 18110000
NT SDID : 10401539
SDID : 535E700C9618A189
Security Device Type : NT_STD
System Serial Number : 318831352

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

The dongle ID is the important part. It's not from a Option 11c system!. It's from the larger Option 61/81 range.
The keycode details need to pair up with the Dongle ID.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[scanjet]

So what I'm understanding is this system will not work as it sits?
Even if it has a blade server attached.

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

Yes, the Dongle ID and keycode needs to be configured and paired up onto the correct hardware, CPU card.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[KCFLHRC]

It's a 1000E system type, not a 61 or 81. Everything now is considered a large system. I'm curious why you bought one thing and got another though. The architecture in a 1000E and an Opt.11 running 4.5 is completely different. Your key code is for a CPPM card also.

 

[scanjet]

It does have a cppm card.But the broker swears that the system is the same.

 

[KCFLHRC]

Well the broker is wrong, an Opt. 11 and a 1000E are 2 different machines. They may have the same licenses but a CPPM and an SSC card are completely different animals and licenses differently. For example in the 11 it will say digital telephones where in the 1000E it will say traditional telephones. The end result may be the same but they definitely didn't buy an Option 11 like they thought they did.

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

That's what I was saying!. You need to go back to your dealer and get him to give you the correct kit.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[scanjet]

If the option 11 cabinet has a cppm card with an mgc card will that work? I know it seems like I am going around in circles but I want to make sure before we go back to the broker.

 

[KCFLHRC]

Yes, the CPPM card in an Option 11 cabinet with an MGC card is a 1000 E Cabinet and will work just fine. The MGC card goes in slot 0 and the CPPM card can go in any slot.

 

[KCFLHRC]

Any slot except 0, sorry. The MGC card has to go in 0 and I would put the CPPM card right next to it in slot 1.

 

[scanjet]

So it is possible that the system was upgraded? but the serial key should be the same right?

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

It's possible that the system was upgraded, but you may well have had a new security dongle for the CPPM card.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[KCFLHRC]

The dongle ID for an Option 11 and a 1000E will be different since everything now is considered a large system. The old dongle is suppose to be destroyed when a new one is issued against the original ID.

 

[scanjet]

i have one last question regarding the cppm card. When does a cpp4 card come into play? Does the system size matter?

 

[KCFLHRC]

A CPP4 is in a large type system, option 61/81

 

[scanjet]

Sorry for all of the questions but what determines large system versus small system if the software is all one flaver?

 

[KCFLHRC]

The version determines system type

 

[scanjet]

So the version on the system is 6.00 is for the cppm

 

[KCFLHRC]

No, the version is 4021, the software release is 6.0