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Trusting VFPA 2

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Carlos Yohn - AGP

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Continuing with the previous conversation: we have been using VFPA 10.0 32 bits for a couple of years. Now we would like to start with the 32-bit one to see if the speed improves.
In general, it works correctly, but there are times when you encounter problems that make you doubt whether they are bugs inherited from VFP9 or our errors or new bugs.
I've talked to Chen a couple of times about the need to know how many users are using this system and to have a forum for sharing problems, ideas, etc. He doesn't seem to like the idea; I don't know the reason; but this makes me doubt the wisdom of continuing with almost no support.
 
I think the idea that AI is going to our jobs is absurd. I look at the problems I'm solving and while AI might be able to write the easy code, I just can't see if dealing with all the weird edge cases and so forth.

I just spent some (volunteer) time starting to write some code for a non-profit I'm deeply involved with. We're moving from QuickBooks to an application that is better tuned to our mission, and we need to transfer a key portion of our existing QB data (that has essentially nothing to do with bookkeeping). The existing data was created over 20 years and has all kinds of oddness and irregularity and quirks. Because I'm familiar with it, I'll be able to automate a large portion of the clean-up needed to create something the new software can import. There's no frigging way an AI could handle this.

Tamar
 
@Tamar

Firstly, shock horror, please mind your language (only messing with you)...

Secondly, I remember when the new graphical db managers (M$ Access) started to come out and thinking: "you know, before long they won't need programmers for most things"

How wrong was I? Thirty seven years I've been doing this... no sign of the tech beating the head yet.

Regards

Griff
Keep [Smile]ing

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

I'm trying to cut down on the use of shrieks (exclamation marks), I'm told they are !good for you.

There is no place like G28 X0 Y0 Z0
 
Griff said:
"you know, before long they won't need programmers for most things"

Well, the thought behind that, more specifically the thought behing SQL was to have a query language managers could write, not that computers program themselves, just that you can do without programmers for this specific task...

We know how easy SQL is that many VFP developers avoid it like the plague.



Chriss
 
That's a mindset thing Chriss

I think top down step wise - HOW to process a list to extract what I want, a SQL person thinks
how do I describe what I want...

I don't avoid SQL, not exactly, but I like to think I can do better in at least some circumstances.



Regards

Griff
Keep [Smile]ing

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

I'm trying to cut down on the use of shrieks (exclamation marks), I'm told they are !good for you.

There is no place like G28 X0 Y0 Z0
 
Griff,

never mind. But just like Mike Lewis additional example about COBOL, the idea that programmers become obsolete by easy to understand programming or query languages differs very much from AI taking over the job. And journalists still jump on the bandwagon that this time the effect will be revolutionizing.

Last time I thought I get a push forward with assistance was in VS. The tools integrated in the Visual Studio editor on top of a better intellisense, which add symbols on the margin that contain annotations, quick tips and not rarely even actions available to you quickly building complete or improved code snippets.

I hope AI would rather integrate into these toolings than only being usable from outside the IDE to chunk out some code. If you just copy&paste code, you won't see those annotations and tips and recommendations coming up with interactive writing of code, so while it boosts you much more directly, it suppresses the learning effect of interactive code writing.

Chriss
 
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