TIE Trunk on 8700 says in-service/active?

[tiaka]

TIE Trunk on 8700 says in-service/active? but has no connected ports on any of the active channels...it should say in-service/idle correct? Now the other end of TIE F/E connected to G3si goes out-of-service after a minute or so. so I cant dial accross the TIE using a TAC.Code from the G3si or from the 8700

Any help? Im thinking I might have a bad CSU on the side of the 8700 but thats all I know at this point.
I have Disconnect Supervision - In? Y on both TIEs
All settings on the TIEs are exactly the same
Any help appreciated

 

[Midstream]

test the board, test the trunks and post the results, please.

 

[tiaka]

Port Maint/Name Test no Result error Code
02a06 UDS1-BD 138 FAIL 1301
02a06 UDS1-BD 139 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 140 FAIL 1
02a06 UDS1-BD 141 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 142 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 143 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 144 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 145 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 146 PASS
02a06 UDS1-BD 1227 PASS
02A0601 TIE-DS1 136 ABORT 1020
02A0601 TIE-DS1 36 ABORT 1006

Errors are the same all the way thru to port

02A0623 TIE-DS1 136 ABORT 1020
02A0623 TIE-DS1 36 ABORT 1006

 

[Midstream]

It's a physical connection problem at this point. You've got to check your cabling, connections and so forth.

https://support.avaya.com/css/Products/P0001/Maintenance and Troubleshooting

Here's a link to some maintenance manuals where you can reference the test results.

 

[tiaka]

Thanks will check asap

 

[tiaka]

Both sides are configured the same with CSU set to intergrated for the 120 CSU type

now both trunks come up in-service/idle then about 2 minutes later both go out of service

 

[Midstream]

Here ya go, right outta the manual....



The 120A CSU module or the 401A T1 sync splitter, or the 402A or 403A
E1 synchronization splitter is not expected.
The 120A CSU module or the 401A T1 sync splitter is not expected: The
120A CSU module/T1 sync splitter is physically connected to the DS1/
UDS1 board on the back of the port carrier, but the Near-End CSU Type
field on the add ds1 screen has not been administered as integrated.
1. If the 120A CSU module/T1 sync splitter is to be used, use change
ds1 to set the Near-End CSU Type field to integrated. Otherwise,
physically remove the 120A CSU module/T1 sync splitter from the
back of the port carrier.
2. Run the test again.
The 402A or 403A E1 synchronization splitter is not expected: The 402A
or 403A E1 synchronization splitter is physically connected to the DS1/
UDS1 board on the back of the port carrier, but the E1 Sync-Splitter?
field on the add ds1 screen has not been administered as y.
1. If the 402A or 403A E1 synchronization splitter is to be used, use
change ds1 to change the E1 Sync-Splitter field to y. Otherwise,
physically remove the 402A or 403A E1 synchronization splitter from
the back of the port carrier.
2. Run the test again.
1302 FAIL Attempting to use the 120A CSU module with a

Get the manual and learn to read the tests, the results and be able to respond. It's the greatest thing you can do for yourself as far as a career in troubleshooting goes.

Post your DS-1 form and let me know what you've got.

 

[tiaka]

Here its is this is on the 8700 its setup the same on the G3Si. Just a note when I set this side to other withe the 120 CSU all my ports go in-service /active

DS1 CIRCUIT PACK

Location: 03B09 Name: Lack Headend
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: common-chan



Interface Companding: mulaw
Idle Code: 11111111
DMI-BOS? n




Slip Detection? n Near-end CSU Type: integrated

DS1 CIRCUIT PACK

ESF DATA LINK OPTIONS

Network Management Protocol: tabs
Send ANSI-T1.403 One-Second Performance Reports? n
Far-end CSU Address: b

INTEGRATED CSU OPTIONS
Transmit LBO: 0db
Receive ALBO: 26db
Upon DTE LOS: loopback


CPE LOOPBACK JACK OPTIONS
Supply CPE Loopback Jack Power? n

 

[tiaka]

Add note Here its is this is on the 8700 its setup the same on the G3Si. Just a note when I set this side to other withe the 120 CSU as "other" all my ports go in-service /active

 

[tiaka]

Heres the complete configuration on the 8700 and the g3si
bothe sides are programmed the same and now I can place calls to and from g3si and 8700

Page 1 of 22
TRUNK GROUP

Group Number: 25 Group Type: tie CDR Reports: y
Group Name: YOUR TRUNK NAME HERE COR: 95 TN: 2 TAC: 611
Direction: two-way Outgoing Display? y Trunk Signaling Type:
Dial Access? y Busy Threshold: 255 Night Service:
Queue Length: 0 Incoming Destination:
Comm Type: voice Auth Code? n
Trunk Flash? n

Trunk Type (in/out): wink/wink

display trunk-group 25 Page 2 of 22
Group Type: tie Trunk Type: wink/wink

TRUNK PARAMETERS
Incoming Rotary Timeout(sec):
Outgoing Dial Type: tone Incoming Dial Type: tone
Wink Timer(msec): 300 Disconnect Timing(msec):
Digit Treatment: Digits:
Sig Bit Inversion: none
Analog Loss Group: 9 Digital Loss Group: 13
Incoming Dial Tone? y

Disconnect Supervision - In? y Out? n
Answer Supervision Timeout: 0 Receive Answer Supervision? y
Administer Timers? y

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TRUNK FEATURES
ACA Assignment? n Measured: internal
Internal Alert? n Maintenance Tests? y
Data Restriction? n
Glare Handling: none
Used for DCS? n
Suppress # Outpulsing? n
Seize When Maintenance Busy: neither-end




Incoming Tone (DTMF) ANI: no Per Call CPN Blocking Code:
Connected to CO? n Per Call CPN Unblocking Code:

Ds1 Echo Cancellation? n
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ADMINISTRABLE TIMERS

Incoming Disconnect(msec): 500 Outgoing Disconnect(msec): 500
Incoming Dial Guard(msec): 70 Outgoing Dial Guard(msec): 1600
Incoming Glare Guard(msec): 1500 Outgoing Glare Guard(msec): 1500



Outgoing Seizure Response(sec): 5
Programmed Dial Pause(msec): 1500 Disconnect Signal Error(sec): 240
Flash Length(msec): 540 Incoming Incomplete Dial Alarm(sec): 255





END TO END SIGNALING
Tone(msec): 350 Pause(msec): 150

OUTPULSING INFORMATION
PPS: 10 Make(msec): 40 Break(msec): 60
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ATMS THRESHOLDS
TTL Type: 105-w-rl Far End Test No:
TTL Vendor: TTL Contact:
Trunk Vendor: Trunk Contact:
Trunk Length:
MARGINAL UNACCEPTABLE
Min Max Min Max
1004 Hz Loss: -2 21 -2 21

-Dev +Dev -Dev +Dev
404 Hz Loss: 9 9 9 9
2804 Hz Loss: 9 9 9 9

Maximum C Message Noise: 55 55
Maximum C Notched Noise: 74 74
Minimum SRL-HI: 0 0
Minimum SRL-LO: 0 0
Minimum ERL: 0 0

Allow ATMS Busyout, Error Logging and Alarming? n
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TRUNK GROUP
Administered Members (min/max): 1/24
GROUP MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS Total Administered Members: 24

Port Code Sfx Name Night Mode Type Ans Delay
1: 03B0901 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
2: 03B0902 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
3: 03B0903 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
4: 03B0904 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
5: 03B0905 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
6: 03B0906 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
7: 03B0907 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
8: 03B0908 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
9: 03B0909 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
10: 03B0910 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
11: 03B0911 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
12: 03B0912 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
13: 03B0913 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
14: 03B0914 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
15: 03B0915 TN464 F e&m t1-stan

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TRUNK GROUP
Administered Members (min/max): 1/24
GROUP MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS Total Administered Members: 24

Port Code Sfx Name Night Mode Type Ans Delay
16: 03B0916 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
17: 03B0917 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
18: 03B0918 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
19: 03B0919 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
20: 03B0920 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
21: 03B0921 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
22: 03B0922 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
23: 03B0923 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
24: 03B0924 TN464 F e&m t1-stan
25:
26:
27:
28:
29:
30:

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DS1 CIRCUIT PACK

Location: 03B09 Name: Lack Headend
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: robbed-bit



Interface Companding: mulaw
Idle Code: 11111111





Slip Detection? n Near-end CSU Type: integrated
display ds1 03b09 Page 2 of 2
DS1 CIRCUIT PACK

ESF DATA LINK OPTIONS

Network Management Protocol: tabs
Send ANSI-T1.403 One-Second Performance Reports? n
Far-end CSU Address: b

INTEGRATED CSU OPTIONS
Transmit LBO: 0db
Receive ALBO: 26db
Upon DTE LOS: loopback


CPE LOOPBACK JACK OPTIONS
Supply CPE Loopback Jack Power? n

 

[4merAvaya]

Before you go to far you have to make sure that the physical links are good. You should be able to do 'test board [slot]' on both ends and pass all tests up to and including test 1227. Below test 1227 you are testing the individual trunks/channels. That is where the trunk group administration comes in. Beginning on page 1313 of the attached link is the screen reference for adding trunks. Try experimenting with the 'Mode' and 'Type' entries. Remove all but one trunk on each end to make your changes and testing go quicker.

Kevin

http://support.avaya.com/elmodocs2/comm_mgr/r1_3/cd823_3/233506_6/233506_6.pdf

 

[phonesrus]

On the 8700 side, in the ds1, you are set for common channel signaling (CCS); on the other side you are set for robbed bit. both must be robbed bit for E&M tie, if you want this to work. CCS is another ball of wax that you probably don't want to mess with!