text on text..the pro way 1

[fredpox]

hello everybody!
I'm new to the forum and I apologize from the beginning if my post is not english-correct, I'm not so used speaking it..
anyway, I graduated in graphic and I use adobe sw since 1998 but I use ID CS2 only from a while..and I saw in some press reviews a cool effect that I have recreated:
put some *Large* capital letter in the top of the page and type some new text inside (or on top) of it maybe rotated CCW, in a lighter font and color..
well, the question is not how to achieve this effect but How this is made in the right way. I mean, is it correct to create 2 layers one above the other and then link them or group them? or is it better create the first big letter and choose anchorate object from the right-click menu? or, maybe create outline of the two layers and try exclude overlap?(I don't think this is really what I need cause I need to edit text..)
HELP!
I could ask the same for picture that requires a small description and numbering..referring to anchorate items..

thanks everybody I hope I don't bother you too much with my Q's
bye
fredpox

 

[jmgalvin]

There really is no “correct” way to do that. Whatever gets the job done, and prints correctly, is OK.

Since you want to keep the text editable, using a new blank layer over the layer containing the large text seems easiest, as long as you want to keep the smaller text in some sort of straight line. If you want it to follow any curves of the bigger letters, you’ll have to create aome sort of path and use the type on path tool.


Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[fredpox]

thanks a lot I work on pc, sorry if I didn't tell this before..anyway doesn't affect too much the solution in this case..
just one more thing, I know maybe it's only a matter of taste organizing objects on the document but the best way to apply a caption to an image is merely to create a text box wherever I want? I mean, there's no other more appropriate function to do this and keep it linked to it? I mean not manually..
for example ms word (a mere word processor) has the built-in capability to apply caption and numbering to a picture, would it be possible in ID too?
thanks again

f

 

[Eggles]

You can't add automatic numbering to a caption - you have to manually add the numbers. If you create a style to use with the captions, then you wil be able to include them in the TOC.

As to how to add captions - I don't think you can put two objects into the same frame, so adding captions to a graphic that stays WITH the graphic if you add more text to preceeding paragraphs at a later stage is difficult, unless you GROUP the image and caption. If there is text wrap applied to the graphic, then this must be applied after grouping it with the caption.

Another way I have found useful (but only works if the layout is being done a certain way) is to place the graphic as an inline graphic (CS2 calls them 'anchored') - that is, you place the graphic with the text tool inserted into the text. Then the caption can be a continutation of the same text block and image and caption will stay together even if earlier text is adjusted.

There are various settings that can be applied to anchored graphics to make them sit where you want, but the beauty of them is because they are part of the text block, you can apply para spacing, centering and other text attributes to it.

 

[fredpox]

Eggles,
thank you for the answer! I think I'll try to create a frame for graphics and an anchored one for text and save it to my library to place it when needed or the inline method you explained.

thank you very much
Paolo