Text dropping out when RIPPed

[BonnieHolm]

Why does text drop out of Indesign files when they are ripped? Someone mentioned it may be from the way the text is colored or how the colors are named. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[jmgalvin]

It would probably help if you could be a bit more specific. Does this happen with all ID files or just one? If not all, do they come from the same person?

Are the proper fonts in place?

Does preflighting report any problems?

You mention color as a possible problem but didn't mention if its all colors or just one.

There haven't been many questions here in quite some time about rips. When ID first started to get real popular (with version 3) there were some. Many of those seemed to involve Accuset.

Again, if you could give some more detail, somebody might be able to give you a better answer.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[BonnieHolm]

Ok more info...
Complete lines of text are being droppped out on a regular basis with several different designers' files. The fonts are all ok. The text is black.
Here is an example: a 3-column story with 3 in column photos. The font is times. There is a drop cap at the beginning of the first column. Lines 17, 18 & 22 are missing from the first column. Lines 2, 6 and 14 are missing from the second column. Lines 24 and 26 are missing from the third column. There are no font changes within the article aside from the drop-cap at the beginning.
In another article in the same publication, same scenario as the first article but the missing lines are #10 in the first column then 12 and 14 in the second column.
jmgalvin, thanks for helping

 

[jmgalvin]

The first thing I'd do would be to preflight the thing and look at fonts in the resulting window. Sometimes you get TTF and T1 combined in the same document. That's especially true if someone copies in something from Word or such. Just last week I got something from the graphics dep't at one of the real big banks with the T1 TTF combo, along with a 100 dpi jpeg picture for a 203 dpi newspaper ad - wonderful. Picked up the font combo on a preflight.

Of course, I'm assuming that the designers used all cmyk and no rgb, another common problem when pasting in from a word precessor.

The drop cap shouln't matter because the offending lines should be well below it or in a different column.

If you're printing postscipt first, you might check the Graphics and under Fonts make sure that Complete is selected nest to Download and possibly check PPD. You can also distill the resulting postscript and have Acrobat check for offending postscript. You might also check for any updates to the RIP from the maker.

I'm guessing that it's something that you're getting included with what's sent to you as opposed to all the time. If two or even five things get botched and the others don't, It's usually not you but the person who sent it to you. So you might want to check the offending things against stuff that's running true. Things like paragraph styles, etc could be goffed up - something that's real hard to check.







Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[MarcusStringer]

Hi BonnieHolm,

Can you try making a PDF for us.

Do the line of text show up in the PDF?

If yes, can you RIP the PDF ok?

What version of InDesign are you using?

What OS?

What's the name of you RIP?

What PS Level are you sending the InDesign File to the RIP as?

And is the RIP campatible with Postscript Level 4?

Marcus

http://www.midlandtypesetters.com.au

 

[jimoblak]

Marcus may be a day ahead of those of us in the states but he can't be too far ahead. He means:

'And is the RIP campatible with Postscript Level 3?'

 

[MarcusStringer]

Jim's right, my Tardis doesn't travel that quick.
And to all my Friends who live in the Past
I meant Level 3.

Marcus

http://www.midlandtypesetters.com.au