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T7406/MICS Rls 6.1 1
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I just tested one on my test system (MICS R6.1) a couple of weeks ago and it worked fine. There's no issues with these that I've heard. Does the handset talk to the base, or does it not work at all?
Brian Cox
Brian Cox
curlycord
Programmer
Has to be a bad connection somewhere Arr....Maintenance has to see it somehow.
If your trying on a 0x16 try the core or just try different ports.
GL : )
If your trying on a 0x16 try the core or just try different ports.
GL : )
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Not a bad connection, had a 7100 with me, pulled the cord from the back of the transmitter put it into the 7100 worked fine. Put the cord back into the trans and nothing. Handset was on ID 1 and would report a successful send just after the base station would start up. ?? Perhaps it's a glitchy unit. Glad to hear it wasn't a surprise glitch.
Cheers
PhM
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PhM
curlycord
Programmer
You found a new glitch maybe!
Send code works but still scanning and port staus shows none?
ITAS time, they might say replace 7406 maybe?
Send code works but still scanning and port staus shows none?
ITAS time, they might say replace 7406 maybe?
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It is more likely that i had a glitchey unit. Compatability matrix for 6.1 shows OK. The 7406 isn't what you would call without a reputation. Great idea. But... Now if they would just bring Companion back.
Curly, what's the scoop on a Companion replacement for Norstar, anything? I have more and more demand for cordless with less and less well engineered, built and priced product to offer. I tried Engenius for a while great product but I'm experiencing a 50% failure/return rate.. don't like that. I am very frustrated by the cordless situation. Particularly when I look at the explosion of cordless computer stuff (which if you use the term Cordless you are carefully corrected by some bubblegummer asking if you mean Wireless?) out there that works better than any 7406 and is half the price.
RANT
Over.
Cheers All
PhM
Curly, what's the scoop on a Companion replacement for Norstar, anything? I have more and more demand for cordless with less and less well engineered, built and priced product to offer. I tried Engenius for a while great product but I'm experiencing a 50% failure/return rate.. don't like that. I am very frustrated by the cordless situation. Particularly when I look at the explosion of cordless computer stuff (which if you use the term Cordless you are carefully corrected by some bubblegummer asking if you mean Wireless?) out there that works better than any 7406 and is half the price.
RANT
Over.
Cheers All
PhM
curlycord
Programmer
SpectraLink is now the replacement for Companion.
Soon vendors will hear from Nortel about this if not already.
SpectraLink can go pretty much with any system however they are also making them now for Nortel exclusively and Nortel will brand the Nortel name to them once some more deals are signed if not already.
You can find out more on the SpectraLink product @
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CC
Soon vendors will hear from Nortel about this if not already.
SpectraLink can go pretty much with any system however they are also making them now for Nortel exclusively and Nortel will brand the Nortel name to them once some more deals are signed if not already.
You can find out more on the SpectraLink product @
Cheers
CC
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Curly,
I know of Spectra Link. Good product. High price when compared with Companion. I suspect strongly the Spectra Link manufacterer was behind Companion... no proof. Do you know if Spectra Link will integrate as well as the Companion did through the last two ports in an XC deployent?
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PhM
I know of Spectra Link. Good product. High price when compared with Companion. I suspect strongly the Spectra Link manufacterer was behind Companion... no proof. Do you know if Spectra Link will integrate as well as the Companion did through the last two ports in an XC deployent?
Cheers
PhM
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sprucegrover
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True, twice the price but 3x the coverage and 10x more durable and reliable. 50 handsets in service and only one failure, and that was out-of-box. Line of sight range easily 1000m (2/3 of a mile)
Best selling feature is compatability with any Norstar from 6x16 DR1 to MICS 6.1. Although there now appears to be an issue with BCM 3.5
No limitation on which ports to use. Just use any available station port for each handset activated on the MCU
Best selling feature is compatability with any Norstar from 6x16 DR1 to MICS 6.1. Although there now appears to be an issue with BCM 3.5
No limitation on which ports to use. Just use any available station port for each handset activated on the MCU
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sprucegrover
Technical User
DueE - that's right. The MCU (Master Control Unit) is powered by ac, and in turn powers the base stations (up to 4) ala Companion. The Norstar ports are connected to the MCU via an attached A25 cable, up to 16 stations. If you only have 4 handsets then just use 4 station ports. Any ports, core or expansion. All registration & de-registration is done at the MCU, not via programming from a set. And the handsets emulate a 7310 set, right down to the programmable keys.
Arr - 1 MCU, 4 base station, 12 handsets with chargers batteries and holsters, about US$14,500. + about 4 hours labour.
No upgrade to XC software, no Link-*-Feature Code, no issue with trying to deal with 2 simultaneous calls on the handsets. And the list goes on. Expensive? Not really when all is considered. More expensive than Companion? Yes, but here you really do get what you pay for.
Just so you know, I don't sell this stuff or any equipment. I just install it and I have been impressed so far.
Arr - 1 MCU, 4 base station, 12 handsets with chargers batteries and holsters, about US$14,500. + about 4 hours labour.
No upgrade to XC software, no Link-*-Feature Code, no issue with trying to deal with 2 simultaneous calls on the handsets. And the list goes on. Expensive? Not really when all is considered. More expensive than Companion? Yes, but here you really do get what you pay for.
Just so you know, I don't sell this stuff or any equipment. I just install it and I have been impressed so far.
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UPDATE:
The problem with the T7406 seems to be noise on the TCM pair. Agravating as it is a CAT5e installation that has been swept with lots of headroom.
Changing pairs didn't help. Noise is evident by an extrememly high static component to the voice path. I've seen similar with the T7406 when I installed it near a pager tower. Then the voice path made everyone sound like a drunken donald duck. Dip switch changes don't work.
Will be going back to site tomorrow to try some RF filters, ferrites, and any other bright idea that may occurr to me (not excluding an incantation or two to Murphy or any other Pagan diety that may help).
Cheers
PhM
The problem with the T7406 seems to be noise on the TCM pair. Agravating as it is a CAT5e installation that has been swept with lots of headroom.
Changing pairs didn't help. Noise is evident by an extrememly high static component to the voice path. I've seen similar with the T7406 when I installed it near a pager tower. Then the voice path made everyone sound like a drunken donald duck. Dip switch changes don't work.
Will be going back to site tomorrow to try some RF filters, ferrites, and any other bright idea that may occurr to me (not excluding an incantation or two to Murphy or any other Pagan diety that may help).
Cheers
PhM
There has been alot of handset problems in general with the T7406's needing to be replaced- it was a step above the 7410's but still not as reliable as the Spectralink.
I was certified & installed Spectralink (when they ran off ATA's on 8x24's back in 94'( I think I'm dating myself here).
Very pricey- especially the handsets if you don't buy the leather cases & curly clips to try to protect them(We also put security detection so they didn't walk out the door.
When they came up with their digital emulations for Norstar(I have installed on 8x24,0x32, & BCM), Toshiba, Siemons, Comdial(which I installed on all over the years) they have been very reliable product line.
The main key is to have Spectralink help you in the RCU design & layout for coverage. I have installed them in retail boxes, & multi story (with Steel & concrete separations) the last site I helped to install 6 months ago was with their newest generation utilizing existing AP's & assigning MAC addresses.
If anyone is interested in another type/manufacturer which is more economical for a smaller application & basic usage utilizing ATA's or an ASM .
I tested with an outdoor antenna(inside a window) & received 1/3-1 mile range in a rolling terrain area.
If anyone is actually interested e-mail me & I will give you my rep's name & number.
Steve
tele-dataservices.com
I was certified & installed Spectralink (when they ran off ATA's on 8x24's back in 94'( I think I'm dating myself here).
Very pricey- especially the handsets if you don't buy the leather cases & curly clips to try to protect them(We also put security detection so they didn't walk out the door.
When they came up with their digital emulations for Norstar(I have installed on 8x24,0x32, & BCM), Toshiba, Siemons, Comdial(which I installed on all over the years) they have been very reliable product line.
The main key is to have Spectralink help you in the RCU design & layout for coverage. I have installed them in retail boxes, & multi story (with Steel & concrete separations) the last site I helped to install 6 months ago was with their newest generation utilizing existing AP's & assigning MAC addresses.
If anyone is interested in another type/manufacturer which is more economical for a smaller application & basic usage utilizing ATA's or an ASM .
I tested with an outdoor antenna(inside a window) & received 1/3-1 mile range in a rolling terrain area.
If anyone is actually interested e-mail me & I will give you my rep's name & number.
Steve
tele-dataservices.com
I quess I should have actually left my e-mail address
I'll give an easy one ss@8374.com
I'll return the e-mail Title as "Norstar portable solution"
Another note if you elect to go with Spectralink.
To certify the installation you must obtain a TAR (?&^@#$ site????) number from them. When you have your installation ready & have done your own testing- then you call them & do what I call the "Spectrawalk".
You call them while you are one of the Spectralink phones & they monitor the signal through the modem connection port you set up & pass them though into the system- as you walk all the perimeters & any other oddball coverage of your site. They can see the handoff to the different RCU's or AP's,as they are listening to you talk for degradation of voice quality & static. If they like what they see & hear they will certify the site.
Steve
tele-dataservices.com
I'll give an easy one ss@8374.com
I'll return the e-mail Title as "Norstar portable solution"
Another note if you elect to go with Spectralink.
To certify the installation you must obtain a TAR (?&^@#$ site????) number from them. When you have your installation ready & have done your own testing- then you call them & do what I call the "Spectrawalk".
You call them while you are one of the Spectralink phones & they monitor the signal through the modem connection port you set up & pass them though into the system- as you walk all the perimeters & any other oddball coverage of your site. They can see the handoff to the different RCU's or AP's,as they are listening to you talk for degradation of voice quality & static. If they like what they see & hear they will certify the site.
Steve
tele-dataservices.com
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