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strokes on text prints huge if not outlined
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...sure...
...you can use...
...then paste download link back here on a message...
...if it is large file, this will then rule out any mail file size restrictions...
Andrew
...you can use...
...then paste download link back here on a message...
...if it is large file, this will then rule out any mail file size restrictions...
Andrew
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is what its coming out as
is what its supposed to be
is what its supposed to be
...ok, have downloaded files and had a quick look, not seen anything like it, but worth eliminating a few areas...
...obviously you are printing to postcript to scale the file down to US Letter using Acrobat Distiller 6 to create PDF...
...so the problem is occuring during postscript creation from illustrator...
...so if for example you opened that postcript file you created back into illustrator (file > open) it looks wrong, or should do? Correct?
...as you have distiller installed and acrobat pro, have you tried printing straight to the Adobe PDF print driver instead of postcript file, using the Adobe Postcript Driver...
...it's a long shot but may have something to do with the PPD...
...another option might be to reset the illustrator preferences file as a matter of maintenance..
...another work around or test, is to save out actual size to PDF (save as > pdf) from illustrator, and then print from Acrobat Pro and scale in the print settings there to see if it behaves the same from acrobat...
...i suspect it is illustrator messing about though, have you tried another PPD file to create the postcript rather than the one you are using at present?
Andrew
...obviously you are printing to postcript to scale the file down to US Letter using Acrobat Distiller 6 to create PDF...
...so the problem is occuring during postscript creation from illustrator...
...so if for example you opened that postcript file you created back into illustrator (file > open) it looks wrong, or should do? Correct?
...as you have distiller installed and acrobat pro, have you tried printing straight to the Adobe PDF print driver instead of postcript file, using the Adobe Postcript Driver...
...it's a long shot but may have something to do with the PPD...
...another option might be to reset the illustrator preferences file as a matter of maintenance..
...another work around or test, is to save out actual size to PDF (save as > pdf) from illustrator, and then print from Acrobat Pro and scale in the print settings there to see if it behaves the same from acrobat...
...i suspect it is illustrator messing about though, have you tried another PPD file to create the postcript rather than the one you are using at present?
Andrew
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thank you for your quick reply. I was of the opinion that it was an Illustrator problem 'cause the outline problem happens to no matter what you print to, not just acrobat. I can save as a pdf and it looks fine on the screen even with the overprint preview turned on but it will print with the white. I will try another PPD if possible....thanks
...OK with further investigation reveals thus:
...as there is a PSD underneath the text, a test here reveals that the PSD is the cause of the problem in CS2...
...without the PSD graphic it scales down fine, so i would forget the PPD route, as this is definitely a structure issue...
...if you have a flattener preset to outline strokes and and also text it appears to hold fine...
...as for the white box syndrome, it is the spot color that causes that, as you are doing poster work, CMYK would be your output space, so best to convert your spot to cmyk. If it were for litho press, it might look wrong in acrobat, but it would however seperate correctly as long as the print provider has an up-to-date RIP...
...a test in CS3 results in no stroke thickening...
...so the conclusion is that this is a bug in CS2, CS3 seems to behave better...
...unless you upgrade to CS3, you will have to outline the text and strokes in a flattener preset...
Andrew
...as there is a PSD underneath the text, a test here reveals that the PSD is the cause of the problem in CS2...
...without the PSD graphic it scales down fine, so i would forget the PPD route, as this is definitely a structure issue...
...if you have a flattener preset to outline strokes and and also text it appears to hold fine...
...as for the white box syndrome, it is the spot color that causes that, as you are doing poster work, CMYK would be your output space, so best to convert your spot to cmyk. If it were for litho press, it might look wrong in acrobat, but it would however seperate correctly as long as the print provider has an up-to-date RIP...
...a test in CS3 results in no stroke thickening...
...so the conclusion is that this is a bug in CS2, CS3 seems to behave better...
...unless you upgrade to CS3, you will have to outline the text and strokes in a flattener preset...
Andrew
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...to add, when i refer to the 'whitebox effect' in acrobat, this is a result of transparency flattening, which is necessary in postscript and also pdf version 1.3 acrobat 4, any other pdf version higher than 1.3 acrobat 4, maintains transparency in the pdf. For an output device to handle these, your rip needs to support transparent pdf's...
...if you are refering to the white halo's around the coins, then that is to do with photoshop cutout, or mask not being quite tight enough...
...a tip for layer masks in photoshop is to apply a stroke layer style to the layer, red normally does good. Then it is easy to see where it needs cleaning up...
...grab a black brush, soft one and paint on the mask, or apply a levels or curve adjustment to the actual mask to fine tune the mask, sharpen it up for example...
Andrew
...if you are refering to the white halo's around the coins, then that is to do with photoshop cutout, or mask not being quite tight enough...
...a tip for layer masks in photoshop is to apply a stroke layer style to the layer, red normally does good. Then it is easy to see where it needs cleaning up...
...grab a black brush, soft one and paint on the mask, or apply a levels or curve adjustment to the actual mask to fine tune the mask, sharpen it up for example...
Andrew
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