Streaming Internet URL and Authentication & Authorisation 1

[stephen1c]

Hi, I've just installed Windows 2003 server and Windows Media Services to begin unicast streaming but have run into 2 problems -

1 Getting access to the file from the Internet - I've no problem port forwarding a port on my router so that when I use the 'Pull' method, I can simply log on to my IP and forwarded port (e.g., presently

http://86.191.129.37:31100).

But what or how do I find the URL which I'm broadcasting from?

2 Authentication & Authorisation - Although comfortable with using the 'pull' method from the encoder, I want to be able to use Authentication & Authorisation, so I'm using the 'Push' method. Would you please confirm how to switch this on as there seems to be so many different settings / places?

Many thanks, Stephen

 

[elmurado]

Hi, have you tried posting to the windows newsgroups? you may have more luck there.

 

[stephen1c]

Thanks elmurado

I posted to both the Windows Media Services

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/wi...g=microsoft.public.windowsmedia&lang=en&cr=US

and Server 2003 newsgroups

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/wi...soft.public.windowsmedia.server&lang=en&cr=US

before tek-tips but have had no response whatsoever. That has been my experiance so far with the M'Soft newsgroups

I was hoping that tek-tips 'Windows 2003 Server' forum might have the answer

Stephen

 

[elmurado]

What happens when you put

http://86.191.129.37:31100

into your browser?

 

[elmurado]

Does any of this help-apologies if you've seen the links before

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/serve/firewall.aspx#Unicast

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/serve/wmservices.aspx

 

[stephen1c]

Thanks elmurado for these suggestions

When I input the (dynamic) IP address (which incidentally has changed again) into the browser, I cannot access the broadcast

I'd already been to the 2 links above but did not help - that is where I found the 2 newsgroups

Thanks anyway, Stephen

 

[elmurado]

How often does the IP change?
Also, for your port forwarding, can you do a port forward with say 3389 and rdp to the machine in question-then you know that the forwarding is working properly(you may have already done something similar).

 

[stephen1c]

Thanks elmurado

I don't have a static IP address but this dynamic address has not changed in months and for test purposes, I'm trying to keep it as simply as I can. Having said that, I have registered with dyndns.org but don't want to do anything until I get this running sweet and then I'll use the diverersion service.

The real problem is I don't know the URL to hand out to viewers. IE, my server is called STEPHEN with a publishing point called test. My IP address is

http://87.131.119.37,

so when the encoder is pushing to 'test', do a visitor access the stream using the URL

http://87.131.119.37,

or should it be

http://87.131.119.37/STEPHEN/test

or

http://87.131.119.37/test

or

http://87.131.119.37/STEPHEN/test.htm,

etc?

Im able to forward a port on my router if required; eg to port 31100 so that when I 'pull' encoded, I can view it fine on

http://87.131.119.37:31100

but again I cant figure out where to use the settings whenever I 'push' through the server

Stephen

 

[elmurado]

When I use an apache server we have setup here(we use it for an app called OCS inventory) I login either by the IP or by the machine.domainname/folder Now as it is an internal server and is not visible outside it doesn't need to have the domain name registered. So if I were to say that I had a website called

http://www.elmurado.com

and wanted everyone on the web to have access to it I would need to register elmurado.com with a domain registrar-eg Verisign and then the whole DNS system around the world would over time get to know that my IP of x.x.x.y was elmurado.com and vice versa. If I didn't register the name then I would be able to access the site but only by IP address(I think-never seen this before).
Can you see the site from inside your LAN? ie if you put in

http://STEPHEN.domainname:80

 

[stephen1c]

Thanks elmurado, but I'm trying to access the broadcast from outside the LAN, ie on the internet (I can access it easily within the LAN)

I've tried

http://87.131.119.37,

http://87.131.119.37,

http://87.131.119.37/STEPHEN/test,

http://87.131.119.37/test,

http://87.131.119.37/STEPHEN/test.htm,

etc but cannot connect. I may be wrong but isnt the IP address of the PC the same as a domain name which is properly DNS registered?

 

[elmurado]

Actually, you're right, with port forwarding, it should just work as you need it to. However, everyone would have to put

http://87.131.119.37:31100

in their browser to access your server in the way that you could. Your router will forward any requests on that IP/port number to the IP of STEPHEN. Then this should open up the web page if the server is set to listen on that port and feed content out when a request is
made. What are you supposed to see when you first connect?
I'm afraid i don't understand the PUSH/PULL thing you've described so I'm not sure what's causing the problem there. But i'd hazard a guess that you'd need a few more ports open for auth-i can't see it doing the auth all on the same port-maybe you'll need to forward more than one port? Hope that makes sense.

 

[stephen1c]

I've just realised from continuosly searching for answer that it might be that there is no 'Control Protocol' plug-in visible in the Properties tab, however in a similar one there is which seems to allow for certain ports to be used, etc. This could be the answer but I cant find out why its not present or enabled other than the possibility I'm using a Windows Server 2003 Standard Evaluation disc?

I compared it with the last page on

http://epresence.tv/FreeSoftware/Media_Station_100_Guide.pdf