Single PC Setup but need functionalty of a server 2

[Sparrz]

I am working on a standalone PC for design purposes and I only have Lotus setup on just this PC, not connected to any servers. I am making only a few databases that need to be transported by CD to 3 other PCs after the databases are complete.

The reason for the Registration Database is there will be 3 users that I would like to to have different types of access, Managers - Admins - Users.

Can I install the standalone client software on each PC, run the databases off of a Main PC Server and have the users logon through a Desktop Link to access these databases with their own IDs for recording purposes.

There is no need for email with these IDs.

Thanks in advance.....If you have any ideas please let me know...

 

[Packet7]

I have yet to try this, but it should work.

1. Create your DB's on your Design PC and modify the ACL accordingly.
2. Burn the DB and copy to the PC/Server.
3. Install the Notes client on your three user machines and make sure the ID files match the ACL specified on the DB.
4. From each user machine, File, Database Open, Local, Browse to the network share.

This should provide you with what you need. Even though the DB sits on a PC/Server, the clients assume it's local. The ACL part might be tricky, but keep me posted.
Good luck.
John

 

[Sparrz]

But am I able to create the other IDs on the design PC and transport the Dbs and the IDs. The problem is that when I try to create the other ID files Administrator always wants to go a Registration Server but there isn't one to go to. Would I have to reinstall the program for each ID on the design PC and save the ID files, then reinstall under the admin id?

Or is there a way I could setup a dummy server on the Design PC and create everything at the same time, then install the software on the other PCs and have the IDs ready for them from the CD.

 

[ohinz]

You can choose "Local" as a registration server...


Ole

 

[Sparrz]

It is not locating The Registration Server on local though, do I have to creat the reg server??

 

[ohinz]

Hmm

If you want to registrate users, you must have a certifier. If you have a certifier you can register users on local with no effects to servers.
(Start administrator, go to configuration and on the right to registration -> Person. You can select Local as registration server if you have a certifier...)

Ole

 

[Sparrz]

I only id I have to work with the id is called user.id (the one created on install). Whenever I try to anything with the id it tells me that it has to be Hierarchical Name. How do I create the hierarchical name that I would need to certify other IDs.

 

[ohinz]

Ok. That is a problem. I have ever worked with one server. And if you setup a server, you get a certifier.
(If you have one computer not in use, you can install the server once and you get an certifier... )

 

[Sparrz]

So, in theory I could install server once get the certifier, save it, then install the client and create user IDS that way, I should also be able to do this all on one machine correct? Even if I was to reinstall software for every ID. The reason for this is I would have to transport the Databases and the IDs on one CD to show the capabilities of Lotus to the company before they buy the site license. I am basically trying to sell the company on using Lotus. If they like what they see in the demo DBs, then they will instruct me to purchase from IBM.

 

[ohinz]

There is no problem.
IBM offers a 90-days test license on the web-site. (use

http://www.lotus.com

and go to download)
But you should take care to select "don't connect to a domino" if you install the clients at your customers site. Otherwise the clients try to connect to the non-existing server.

Later you can make connection documents and connect manually.
But if the like to use the IDs after installing the production server, they must be certified with the same fully qualified names. Or you can grand access to the database later for the new IDs.

If you like to this on the same machine, it is better to install the domino first and after that the designer.

At my developer site, I have a Pentium 120 (64 MB RAM)running Domino. If you have an old machine with 1GB HDD you can setup that computer for design testing (recommend, if you develop application for

http://www...).

Ole

 

[Sparrz]

Thanks I will check it out, let you know what I find.

 

[AmazingDominik]

Hi,

If these 3 users need to run the database from a central PC server then that server needs to run Domino.
If not: only 1 user at the time will be able to access the database using a network share.

For your Design you do not need a server at all:

If the 3 users have no Lotus client installed yet, then just install a client machine on each computer. Upon installing you can create a user name for each to run the Notes client stand alone automatically.

Then you put these 3 user names in your ACL and it will work fine. No need to create user ID's on a server or to have a server when designing.

This way each user can work in his own copy of the database, or they can work one at a time from a fileserver.

If a Domino server is present for these 3 users then they also have a user ID. In this case they can access the database simultaneously and all you need to do is put their full Notes name in your ACL before distributing your database. No need to have access to the server to enter the names in the ACL. Just type them.

So it is actually quite simple!



Kind regards,

Dominik Malfait
dominik@amazingit.com

http://www.amazingit.com

 

[Sparrz]

So in order to be able to access the DBs simultaneously there would have to be Domino setup on the Server PC, if this is present when the client gets installed on the PCs and the ID are created I would be able to just add to the ACL. Correct?

And if I wanted to just have the IDs created before the Client is installed on the other PCs, I would have to create the Certifier ID in Domino then create the IDs by installing and reinstalling the client for the amount of IDs I would need. Would this be plausible? Or is there an easier way...?

 

[ohinz]

I am not sure, but there was a trick:
Delete all lines of the notes.ini except of the first line.

After this "operation" notes starts with the setup again.

Ole

 

[ohinz]

One addition:
Leave the line "Directory=..." in the notes.ini

Ole

 

[AmazingDominik]

Hi,

Wrong.
Please read my previous entry carefully again.

1/
As a designer you do NOT need user ID's to add them to the ACL. You can just add the names without the need for the actual ID.

2/
For standalone usage you do not need an ID that comes from a server. The client will create a user ID upon installation. This ID is non-hierachical.

3/
A client can not create a user ID that can be used by a server. Only a server can create that by registering users.

So if the users do not have a server yet:
Install the server, register the users, install the clients, change the ACL if you have not done that before.

If you are not going to use a server (one at a time usage):
No need to do anything. Just add the 3 names to the ACL. Each time you install a client, use that name when prompted and a user ID will be created. YOU do NOT need to have ha ID when developing the database. Only the end-user needs it to log on to his machine.





Kind regards,

Dominik Malfait
dominik@amazingit.com

http://www.amazingit.com

 

[Sparrz]

The plan is to show the company the databases and their functionality with the different IDs. To show the differences in the documents when Managers and Users logon. The IDs that need to be created will be generic IDs. the problem is that when I try to create these generic IDs in Lotus Administrator it wants to locate a Registration Server or a hierarchical Certifier ID, the workstation I am on will not find one as it is not hooked up to a Server at all. But I do need to create the IDs for the demos. How do I go about creating the IDs using a Certifier ID or how do I create the Certifier ID itself, can this be done with Domino Server or can I create it through Lotus Administrator?

 

[ohinz]

Hi

The only way I know to create certifier is: setup a domino.
But: If you have the cerfier, you don't need the domino to register the users.

The other way (running Client-Setup) can create Client-IDs.

You can use both ways, to get your client IDs. I prefere a small domino because I develop web-applications and it is the best way to test the database (with different browsers, client systems etc).

Ole

 

[Sparrz]

So if I wanted to have the IDs created for the demos it would be best to just install the domino once then create the certifier ID then just create the IDs then let the users create more and just add them to the ACL later. Correct.

 

[ohinz]

I think, this is the most flexible way for you and the future developments.

Ole