sata problems with clean install of windows xp

[rossmaylor]

just bought a new computer, put it all together. my specs are:

amd Athlon 64bit 3400+ 512kb L2cache (newcastle)
MSI K8MM3-V motherboard (via 8237r/8237r plus chipset)
CRUCIAL 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz ram
Maxtor 6L300S0 DiamondMax 10 300GB 7200RPM SATA/150 16MB Cache

start it up, works fine. start a clean install of windows xp, thinking that i wont need to install any third party sata drivers. after the initial "copying files" stage, xp restarts my computer. for a second the "starting windows xp" boot screens comes up and then a second later i get BSOD, with the error message "Stop 0x0000007B ( 0xF7C46528 , 0xC0000034 , 0x00000000 , 0x00000000 )". I then found a disk in the motherboard box for sata raid drivers, i reinstalled xp and pressed F6 to install third party drivers. i could add "VIA RAID DRIVER" and "VIA ATA/ATAPI CONTROLLER" to the list, however xp said the drivers were older than its own, although i used the ones off the floppy anyway. I STILL GET THE BSOD. tried doing the same thing again except using xp's newer drivers, still get it.

I have tried everything, checked through other peoples solutions to the same problem by googling it, however they seem to solve it by changing options in the bios for sata (they seemed to all have asus motherboards). however, in my bios i only get the option of "SATA MODE"- which is either "IDE" or "RAID". tried those both, same problem. tried swapping memory sticks, same problem.

i thought the problem might be that the only drivers on the disk were RAID and ATA, but i cant find any VIA SATA drivers anywhere for that chipset.

its driving me mad! any suggestions??!!

 

[bcastner]

RAID to XP means that the drive controller has a BIOS to support the drive.

You want RAID in both BIOS and in driver choice. Do you have the newer drivers from last month?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=647&kind=1

 

[rossmaylor]

yeah i tried them. same result

ive just tried using a slightly older windows xp cd, this time if i use the third party raid drivers it will start formatting the hard drive a lot slower (i forgot to mention, with the other disc, it would format really fast, within 15 seconds, even though i selected full format), which looked more promising as it was taking the amount of time it should take. however, when it got round to copying files, it said all the files on the floppy i provided didnt exist, even though i tried 2 diff floppys and they had both previously worked with the other xp disc. i tried skipping it and just got the BSOD with the same error message again. also, if i try installing xp on this cd without pressing F6, it says that it cant find my hard drive.

help

 

[bcastner]

You have to un-ZIP the drivers before copying to the floppy disk.

You will need to use the F6-floppy method of install.

 

[linney]

PlanetAMD64 > Hardware > Storage forum

http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showforum=18

http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=3818

Loading Windows XP on a SATA drive

http://cruftbox.com/blog/archives/000867.html

HOW TO SET UP A RAID ARRAY

http://www.pctechguide.com/tutorials/RAID.htm

RAID Tutorial

http://decentdownloads.x-istence.com/Forum/lofiversion/index.php/t21.html

 

[rossmaylor]

they were unzipped, but i still had problems. one of them was an original SATA RAID driver disk provided with the motherboard.

please note: i am only using ONE drive so i do NOT want to use RAID. the floppy provided and any driver disks i seem to find on the net only provided drivers for RAID and IDE. is it just this chipset or what?

 

[bcastner]

Raid in this context means that the controller has a BIOS, not that you have more than one drive.

 

[rossmaylor]

what do you mean? as in the sata controller has its own bios? so the drivers are known as RAID controller drivers? do i need to set up a RAID array?

 

[bcastner]

what do you mean? as in the sata controller has its own bios? so the drivers are known as RAID controller drivers?"

Exactly.

 

[rossmaylor]

ok, but ive already tried using the RAID controller drivers off the supplied disk. will have anything to do with the fact that im installing using windows xp 32-bit when i have a 64-bit processor? or does that make no diff whatsoever?

also, why do you think it takes much longer to format the partition with a slightly older version of xp than the newer version? and why does the older version not find the drivers properly on the floppy when the newer version does?

please help, im really stuck

 

[bcastner]

Q1: "...will have anything to do with the fact that im installing using windows xp 32-bit when i have a 64-bit processor? or does that make no diff whatsoever?"

A1: It makes no difference whatsoever.

Q2: "also, why do you think it takes much longer to format the partition with a slightly older version of xp than the newer version? and why does the older version not find the drivers properly on the floppy when the newer version does?"

A2: LBA - Large Block Addressing is enabled on the "newer" XP releases. In addition, SP2 has some limited understanding of SATA drives in "RAID" or SATA rather than PATA configuration.

Other things:
[ul]
[li]Drivers:

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=715&kind=1

[/li]

[li]Advice:

http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp_on_a.htm

[/li]

[/ul]

 

[linney]

No Boot (system does post) - SATA configuration

http://msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#3_3

Support

http://www.msicomputer.com/support/msi_support.asp

 

[rossmaylor]

i ended up putting an 40gb ide drive in and xp installed on that drive with no problems whatsoever. once installed, xp picked up my sata drive absolutely fine. didnt need to do anythin.

is there anyway i can install xp on the sata drive from the current xp install?

 

[bcastner]

Is it your intention to, after installation, flip the drives around or remove the IDE drive?

Will not work.