Riva TNT2 M64 card - crashing D3D games

[FourWheelDrift]

Help..

I have just replaced a 2d/3d Permedia 2 & 2x Voodoo2 cards in my PC and installed a Pine Group Riva TNT2 M64 2d/3d card. The card is excellent I'm sure and better than my previous cards (32MB on board RAM etc) but......I have installed it, loaded the drivers and even updated the drivers using the Pine Groups website and even via Nvidia's website (starting the install process again in both cases and yes uninstalling the previous versions) but it still crashes Direct 3d games (Colin McRae 2, Spirit of Speed, F1RS etc,...., OpenGL games (like Quake III) are fine.
It also crashed Grand Prix Legends (even with the D3D patch) but I do not know if that's an incompatibilty problem or the same problem. :-(

The only other thing i could think of was the registry (I have deleted all 3d Labs/Permedia and 3dfx references) but still know luck.

Anyone got any ideas on this?

 

[gunthnp]

update dx after put in the card dx only install for what you have and you did not have a geforce before So long and thanks for all the fish.

 

[hc25036]

Need some more information - is the new card AGP and the old ones PCI, what processor?

 

[butchrecon]

You should try 2 things. Update to Direct X 8. And Down load from NVIDIAs web site the Detonator 3 drivers. Then try to play your D3D games. If you continue to have problems, Give us the main board type Processor, OS level, and RAM type and amount.

 

[jburek]

The "fix" is going to depend on a lot of things, especially your hardware. Install the latest Detontator drivers from NVIDIA, [www.nvidia.com/products.nsf/htmlmedia/detonator3.html]install/reinstall DirectX 8.0a[www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?ReleaseID=27741] and depending on your motherboard and chipset, you may need AGP miniport drivers (assuming this is an AGP video card you're talking about)
Pine [www.pineusa.com] makes both versions of the M64 card so it's hard for us to tell.
The miniport drivers are available from the manufacturer of the chipset that your motherboard has. It could be Intel, VIA, AMD, SIS, etc....

 

[FourWheelDrift]

hc25036 - the board is AGP, before it was Permedia 2 AGP and 2x PCI Voodoo2's in SLI connection.

 

[FourWheelDrift]

I have DX8 on my system now but would you suggest uninstalling and re-installing it now I have my new card in. If so (and this is because I am typing this is in at work and can't see my add/remove list) how do I go about uninstalling it, I can't remember seeing it in my add/remove list?

Many thanks for you help so far.

 

[gunthnp]

don't uninsatll just install over it So long and thanks for all the fish.

 

[FourWheelDrift]

I have re-installed my AGP card, installed the drivers for it then the newest Detonator3 drivers from NVidia and then installed Directx8. Still crashes Colin McRae 2 though on the language choice screen. I have tried a new game for this card Tiger Woods 2000 and it works fine....do you think my CM2 CD is bad, if so back to the shop it goes. I just don't want to take it back, get a replacement which also doesn't work and be unable to replace that one.

thoughts????????

 

[gunthnp]

try a few more dx games like quake or something see if it happen in them if it just that game. Go to the game maker site there may be a fix for tnt2 there So long and thanks for all the fish.

 

[hc25036]

Sorry - took a while to get back. Do you have an Athlon processor and a mobo with the VIA133 chipset? If so, this is a fairly common problem with AGP cards, and you should try updating the AGP driver (from

http://www.viahardware.com)

and also reading the advice at

http://www.geforcefaq.com

(even though yours is not a geforce card). Good luck

 

[TalkingGoat]

The problem may be more than just the drivers. If your pulling too much power through the mb, it will cause the system to hard lock. I have had this problem playing descent 3 in high resolution. The mb could not handle the ram, cpu, and vid card at the same time; result: hard lock. The only temp fix that I found was to down clock the ram to 88mhz and the cpu to 500mhz from 133 and 700mhz. If you get a new mb, it could fix your problems. I recomend an Asus, but it's your money...do your homework first.

 

[FourWheelDrift]

I have had my PC round to a friend who is a PC Support guy who builds PC's too. We put a new HD with 98 on it in, loaded up the drivers and got Colin McRae 2 to work, "with keys". Tried the origional HD in my machine and Colin McRae again worked - "with keys" but as soon as I tried to run it with the steering wheel - CRASH - Lock UP!!!.

This has happened with 2 wheels we tried. (There do not seem to be any conflicts) does anyone know what this may be. Both wheels are Thrustmaster based but with different drivers.

My PC is a Pentium II based system so no AMD probs.

Thanks
4WD