Resolutions greater than 1024 2

[boyfromoz]

I just finished the draft for a new site, set it to work at at both 800 and 1024 res, only to find my client and his whole department view the internet at at least 1153 res, some as high as 1400 res.

Anyone else experiencing this? I've since read 13% of surfers view the ent at 1153 screen width's or above.

Richard

 

[Cheech]

We all use monitors set to 1600*1200 but very rarely open a full size window.

Cheech The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

 

[tjd]

Yup! 1600*1200 is what most tech users seem to run.

- "Oops! I've joined a club that'll have me as a member?" -

 

[boyfromoz]

Hhmn, I'm not really talking about techs. I'm talking about Joe Shmoe, who now buys a computer with a 17inch monitor as standard, or a 19 inch and sets their screen resolution to 1153 or more, and does not realise they can easily resize the windows on it.

The simply don't think to do it.

 

[askari]

I have found that the average punter uses mainly 800x600 and this is what I design for. Check this out...

http://www.clienthelpdesk.com/statistics_research/average_screen_resolution.html

 

[boyfromoz]

That data is 18 months old.

Very scary

I reckon we are closer to these statistics

600 x 400 less than 2%

800 x 600 25%

1024 x 768 50%

1153 x ... 10%

1200 x .... 5%

Weird mac res. 5%

Higher 3%

 

[CTekMedia]

I agree with Nippi. I design Internet to work in 800x600 but try to make it look good for 1024x768 also.

Intranet depends on the company. That is one of the first questions to ask. I have 3 pages of questions I go over now. You can never ask too many pesky questions.

Peace

http://www.bluetone.biz

BT

 

[boyfromoz]

From here on in I'm doing two things

(1) Ask the client what res> they are running. I need to make sure it looks good on their screen or no pay!

(2) If its 1024, I'm going to design for that res and above, not belwo. Too hard/expensive to design multi res. across 6+ resolutions.

 

[Cheech]

Stuffem design for 800*600 and center it

Cheech The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

 

[dunxd]

Why not go for "liquid" design that will adapt to the size of the window, rather than fixed design. That way everyone sees something more or less the way you intended it.

After all, you never really know what size of window people are looking at. Once you have considered people using [ul]
[li]The Office Toolbar[/li]
[li]The Start Menu in various places[/li]
[li]non maximised browser windows[/li]
[li]docked instant messenger down one whole side of the screen[/li]
[/ul] 800x600 really has no relevance.

The people who designed the browsers thought of this. Why battle against it, when you can go for a design which will look great for most people, rather than one that looks perfect for who knows who.

Check out

http://www.alistapart.com

for a lot of stuff on doing this. There is no reason that you should have a fixed size web page. Even Flash can be scaled! --
Dunx

 

[boyfromoz]

Using the method shown, you sacrifice netcrap 4.7, as it doesn't do positoning well in css.

 

[dunxd]

It all depends what you want to do really. Netscape 4.x doesn't support all the CSS positioning, but it does to an extent. Obviously there will be cases where you feel you must use tables to lay out very complex graphic rich designs. But those are always going to be fixed width and look wrong on different display resolutions and on different browsers with different display sizes (look at the variations you can have with Netscape menu's shrunk, large/small icons, text with icons etc.

One tip for dealing with Netscape is to use JavaScript stylesheets to get positioning right for Netscape 4.x. All other browsers will ignore a stylesheet with type="text/javascript".

Besides that there was a point when we sacrificed Mosaic, Netscape 2 and 3 etc. I think we need to ask ourselves if the time to sacrifice Netscape 4.x is here. Upsdells Browser use statistics (

http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm)

place Netscape 4.x at only 2.3% of use.

I think you have to look at it on a site by site basis, and think about who your audience is, and balance this with what sort of design you intend to do. CSS is the way of the future though, so you shouldn't dismiss it. Another tool for your box... --
Dunx