renewing the IP address

[natepiano]

Am running XP home. I am direct connecting two computers for a small business. Both computers claim to have network connections up and running. But neither can see each other. When i go to repair the connection, it comes up with a sign. "Unable to renew the IP address" or something to that affect. Can anyone help me?

 

[pansophic]

You have the computers set up for DHCP (or dynamic configuration). You need to assign some static IP addresses, preferrably from the RFC 1918 class.

Try 192.168.1.x, giving each machine its own last octet (1-254). Net mask should be 255.255.255.0. The gateway setting is irrelevant, unless one of them is connected to the internet and you want to do internet connection sharing.

pansophic

 

[natepiano]

this is nate again. I did that, assigned both computers to two IP numbers that were 192.168.1.(254)(205). I also set the net mask to 255.255.255.0. The two computers both say that the LAN is connected. However, the response to pinging is "Request timed out" This is dispite the fact that XP recognizes the computers as being connected. I also cannot get the computers to see each other. How can i fix this?

 

[sobak]

I believe you also need a cross-over cable between the two systems. Or you could get an inexpensive hub and connect both systems into that. You should be able to get either at your local computer store.

david e
*end users are just like computers, some you can work with...others just need a simple reBOOTing to fix their problems.*

 

[Dmasch]

Nate,
Change the one machines ip address from 192.168.1.254 to 192.168.1.206
the .254 is used as a broadcast and should not be used for a computer. Then try pinging either machine and see if you get responses.

 

[pansophic]

Dmasch is almost correct. With a net mask of 255.255.255.0, you will get a network address at .0 and broadcast address at .255. 254 should be usable as a host IP address, although it is customary to leave the top and bottom addresses for gateways and servers.

Depending on which school you went to, .254 is typically a gateway or DNS. The same goes for .1. Most hosts would fall into the range between 31 and 239.

Also, if you are using XP it is possible that the built-in firewall is blocking pinging. It is best to simply turn off the firewall until you get your networking issues resolved if you don't know exactly what you are doing. Just don't connect to the Internet in the mean time.

pansophic

 

[CCIEWANNABE]

HostMin: 192.168.0.1
HostMax: 192.168.0.254
Your broadcast would be 192.168.0.255
Since your using a Private IP address it doesn’t matter how you design it as long as you design it consistently

Here are some tips: Use the Same Workgroup Name on All Computers.
Check the Network Components: File and Printer Sharing and Client for Microsoft Networks must be enabled on each computer in question.
Link:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/networking/ics.asp

Trying Accessing by both IP address or machine name. \\computer
\\IP-address
Have you set the computers up to query a domain controller or a peer-to-peer group?
Sample setups:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/networking/homenet/setups.asp

Route once; switch many

 

[natepiano]

I am still having the problem. I connected them with a crossover cable. The loacal area connection on my host computer reads like the following:
Address Types: Manually configured
IP address: 192.168.1.50
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: blank

My client computer
Address Types: Manually configured
IP address: 192.168.1.205
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: blank

On both computers, i have turned off the firewall. Both are sending packets, but neither receives any. Pinging still responses as request time out. all help has been and will be greatly appreciated!
nate

 

[pansophic]

Do you have a link light on both NICs?

Is this a self-made or prefab cross-over cable?

What is the output of route -print? Can you paste it here? Why not get ipconfig all as well?

pansophic

 

[natepiano]

both lights are on ... its a prefab ... and how do i get the output of route-print? thanks. nate

 

[natepiano]

i did run then ipconfig ... a window opens, then closes really quickly ... is there a way to get the information that is written on that screen?

 

[pansophic]

You need to run both of the commands from a command shell, not from the run command.

My unix is showing, isn't it? Sorry, the command is 'route print' not 'route -print.'

pansophic

 

[natepiano]

ahhh. ok ... i will check it ... i just thought i was really stupid or something .. lol

 

[natepiano]

This is my host computer

Windows IP Configuration

ethernet adapter Local Area Connector

Connection-Specific DNS Suffix
IP Address: 192.168.1.50
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway:

PPP adapter integrity (this is my internet connection)

Connection-Specific DNS Suffix
IP Address: 216.216.186.190
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway: 216.126.186.190

This is my client

ethernet Local Area Connection 2

Connection-Specific DNS Suffix
IP Address: 192.168.1.205
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway:

 

[attrofy]

Just some thoughts,
in XP (Pro - not sure about home) you can get the same IPCONFIG info from going to Start -> My Network Places -> Network Tasks (on left) -> View Network COnnections -> Local Area Connection Icon -> Support -> Details. It seems a lot more lengthy to type this out, but when you are doing the cicking, it is much faster than typing (easier to cut and paste).

Just to state the obvious - you are sure you are using a cross over cable, not a standard CAT 5 cable??? There is a difference.

One last thing, under XP, go to the run button, click it and type "cmd" (enter); then try "ipconfig -all" and "route PRINT" That will give the results that pansophic is looking for.

Just for grins, what do you get with a "ping 127.0.0.1" ???

Russell

 

[RobGauteng]

Hi Im having almost the same problem
XP Home -Crossover cable to Printer IP Conflicts computer sees printer but cannot enable or resolve the IP address Error The 'bridged comnnection? shows an ip address of 169.254.232.60 subnet 255.255.0.0 the ethernet card conncetions says IP is not enabled for this connection
I have called Dell and the Printer people no luck so basically I am stuck any advise ??
Rob

 

[pansophic]

RobGauteng,

You are definitely set up for DHCP (Dynamic addressing). You need to assign a static IP address. You also may need to set up a hosts table so that you do not have name resolution issues.

If I recall, there is a file in c:\windows\system32\????\hosts.sam. It is a sample hosts file. If you add the IP addresses of your own machine and the printer and names in the same format as the example and save the file as 'hosts' then you should not have name resolution problems. Maybe some else here has an XP machine and they can fill in the rest of the path.

Be careful if you are using Notepad for editing this file as it likes to add .txt to everything, and if you don't turn off that stupid feature of hiding file extensions, you won't be able to see it. The name must be hosts with no extension.

Also, be sure to use an RFC 1918 Private Network address (like 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) so that when you connect to the Internet you don't have any conflicts.

pansophic

 

[natepiano]

Interface list
0x1.........................MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2...00 e0 7d 87 a1 4f ... Realtek (my network card)
C #2
0x20004 ... 00 53 45 00 00 00 .... WAN <PPP/SLIP> Interface

Active Routes
Network destination Network mask Gateway
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 64.24.198.63
64.24.198.63 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
64.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 64.24.198.63
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
192.68.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.50
192.68.1.50 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.50
192.168.254.1 255.255.255.255 64.24.198.63
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 192.168.1.50
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 64.24.198.63
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.50

The Interface was merely a repetition of Gateway. And Metric went 1, 50, 50, 1, 20, 20, 20, 1, 20, 1, 1.

Default Gateway: 64.24.198.63

persistant routes: none

 

[natepiano]

hey guys ... good news ... i think ... on the host computer ... it now recognizes the other computer on the network. However, i cannot connect and view any files. it claims that &quot;i dont have permission to use the network resource ... the network path was not found.&quot;